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If you hate Windows, simply switch to Linux so you can hate Linux instead

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Lucy
@schratze If you already hate both, simply switch to Unix so when you have a problem you're all alone in solving it.
Haunted Owlbear

@schratze Eight out of ten sysadmins can't be wrong!

woolie

@Wintermute_BBS @schratze i use golang so it’s at least spiritually connected to plan9.

Csepp 🌒

@Wintermute_BBS @schratze Switch to Plan 9 so you can hate all operating systems, including Plan 9. (speaking from experience)

arguil

@Wintermute_BBS @schratze I'd love to try it but I'm not sure what hardware I could run this on.

sankakujin
@eichkat3r @schratze
Which makes you responsible for almost everything, which is broken on your system.
Cats Who Code

@schratze@todon.nl I don't hate it but it has frustrated me once in a while ​:blobcatcomfysmirk:​

Ben S.

@schratze I've now used all 3 major modern OSes enough to be convinced that the only way anyone could truly like any of them is via Stockholm Syndrome. They've all got silly quirks and annoyances that have to be overlooked in order to be useful as daily drivers.

Snerk Rabbledauber

@schratze

It is a little like healthcare. Ask people around the world how they like the healthcare system in their country and they will all complain. But then ask them if they want to trade with the US!

I have to use Windows at work and I use Linux at home. So I get a daily reminder how much better off I am at home.

Mirko Schenk

@SnerkRabbledauber @schratze Yeah, same. Except if somehow a file system got corrupted. Can't it just do fsck instead of throwing me to that weird emergency "shell"? (At least Mint does, other distributions might do that better.)

Oh..... clumsy....

@schratze
"Nooo, Linux is superior to Windows!"
"Idc, computers fucking suck lmao"

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@schratze I did this, can confirm this is how it works

Folket

@schratze *so you can hate linux and windows. clearly superior.

schratze

Poster's Paradox strikes yet again

lillian

@schratze You say as I’m about to repurpose an old SATA SSD for a Linux install.

loutre :verified: :verified:

@schratze fake news. on linux you don't hate the os, you just hate yourself

uɐıʇsɐqǝs

@schratze I hate Windows. But love Linux (Mint) so much I regularly donate some money and I'm doing this with a good feeling.

While I hate Windows even more, because I pay it as a kind of "Tax" when buying new hardware that ships with this cancer of an OS...

Γ–can

@schratze I did, and now I do, but to a lesser degree.

w4tsn ~> :idle:

@schratze stop using computers so you can start to love again

Tagomago

@schratze I normally love G/L (specially its formidable pipeable terminal toolbox). Yes, sometimes I too want to crush my computer, but it usually leads me (after random hours of madness) to learn yet one more thing I may apply elsewhere. That didn't happen on Windows.

Autumn

@schratze This also applies to macOS, after you've tried out Linux.

Anya :new_lesbian_flag:✨

@schratze yes but the trick is to only hate other distros (subject to change). And systemd.

RevolutionaryPineapple

@schratze I'm trapped in a constant cycle of all 3 OSs... I switch from Windows full time to Linux full time, I'm happy for a year or 2 and then start drooling over Mac OS.

Then I'm on Mac OS for like 3 or 4 years, and start yearning for the freedom and customisability of Linux again... Rinse repeat.

cxx

@schratze welcome to your neverending journey to find a distribution which sucks less

Carsten Agger

@schratze I missed the memo, I switched to Linux & love it instead. Or, if I don't love it, I don't see it, because it just lets me do my work.

Al Dee

@schratze Linux allows you to harness your rage into reading endless forum posts though

woolie

@schratze I generalize this approach into hating all computers.

Molly H

@schratze
tired: hating Windows
wired: hating computers

Paradroyd

@schratze Yes, except, hate it -silently-.

Bonus points if you can do it without even admitting it to yourself.

Moved to cawfee.club

@schratze I'll see into Mint since it is close to Windows and I don't really want to learn the terminal. I tried Ubuntu and Manjaro, but I didn't like Ubuntu's interface and I would have to learn the terminal to download applications instead of just clicking on a .deb file.

stirz βœ…

@schratze Quite the same is true if you ditch MS Office for LibreOffice - or if you decide to write your PhD in LaTeX

L.J. is the cis Minipang

@schratze problem solved!

(Without comment on any problems that may or may not have been gained)

ugglan

@schratze Why switch to a Mac when you can hate your OS for free.

Marc Jones

@schratze I feel seen here, having worked* with both.

Π”Π°ΡˆΠ°

@schratze did so long time ago
now I hate computers in general, and those running Windows a little bit extra

waimus

@schratze now go deeper. If you hate your distro, swich to other distro so you can hate other distro instead.

Now if you hate your DE, try other DEs, or go deeper with WMs.

And if you hate with GUI text editor, go deeper with Nano, or deeper with Vim, or Emacs.

If you hate systemd try something else to hate.

If you hate the mainline kernel try modded kernel to hate.

Babu Menos

@schratze There’s no need to actually *hate* any of the OS’s but plenty reason to love Linux.

Matthias Schmidt

@schratze Desktop VM solutions were invented so that one can install lots of different OSes and learn to hate all of them.

Angry Buddhist Cat

@schratze
I was asking myself if I'm gonna feel the same feel here that I feel following dev profiles onTwitter

Your toot makes me feel that, thank you;

GMate8

@schratze i hate The Linux Foundation because they only develop a kernel not a fricking operating system so would we have quality Linux OS

Listens to Baroque while coding murder.exe :newt:
@gmate8 @schratze the linux foundation doesn't even develop linux kernel. Most of their budget is spent on weird stuff like implementing vaccine passports, fighting climate change, and spreading diversity. I kid you not.
kQuote

@gmate8 there are other reasons to hate the foundation but them not making a distro seems like a weird one to me :p

Yeah how fragmented things are does kinda suck but I don’t think the answer is to simply force everyone to work on one thing

Saturn

@schratze You couldn't get me to hate my Arch workstation if you offered me a million gold doubloons.

mirk0dex :gnulightened:

@schratze GNU/Linux*.
You either hate the whole package or you don't.

coolbean!

@Mirk0dex@social.linux.pizza @schratze@todon.nl as someone continually trying to get chimera linux to work, which uses ported versions of *bsd utilities

no, just linux, god i hate this distro why did i even try running something that's in pre-alpha

but also its the best distro and i love it

Cyb3rrunn3r :mastodon:⭐️

@schratze WΓΌrde ich ja machen, wenn "Sachen" unter Linux laufen wΓΌrden, die (fast) ohne Murren unter Windoof laufen. ALLE Spiele z.B. etc. ohne EinschrΓ€nkungen.

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@schratze Being forced to work with a computer running Windows after several years being able to live with linux, I'm wondering how it is possible that employers agree to **pay** to limit their employees so much.

Windows is not ready for the desktop.

Netto Hikari πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡―πŸ‡΅β€οΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

@schratze I didn't know it was possible to use the words "hate" and "linux" in one sentence! 🧐

metallcorn 🐧

@schratze
It doesn't work that way. To hate Linux you have to understand it. Otherwise it doesn't count))

If you don't understand it and just hate it then you're a typical "who couldn't" guy.

If you must to understand it thoroughly and hate it consciously. But...by this time, Linux is your best friend and you're OK with that.

BuraitoPengin

@schratze I already hate every operating systems. Hate is different kind of love ❀️

calcifer :nes_fire:

@schratze @volpeon :thinking_very_hard: use multiple OSes, hate computers entirely

efelbar

@schratze over my year and a half of quarantine I decided to switch to Linux (first elementary, then manjaro, then arco) on my main computer. As I went deeper and deeper into glamming my desktop, I learned to hate computers more and more.

I’ve ended up with a basic arco install with a tiny polybar config and a background image I like, and now I only sometimes hate my computer (though I still dislike them as a whole!)

Almost no configs are the best configs for me I’ve found :>

NoX

@schratze how can you say something so controversial yet so brave

gabboman

@schratze switch to macos so you can hate macos and yourself too

kit

@schratze can confirm, i hate both and switched to macos so i can hate that too

Antoine-FrΓ©dΓ©ric (he/him)

@schratze I’m not saying this as a form of aggression, just what do you want me to say? If you feel like systemd is taking too much of your time, try out Alpine

jonossaseuraava
@schratze on Linux you can _customize_ the haters just the way you hate it
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@schratze I switched to Linux so I could hate myself.

Mx Amber Alex

@allenstenhaus @schratze I switched to Linux so I had multiple versions to hate AND nerds to lecture me about why I'm hating the wrong one

DELETED

@mrcopilot @amberage @schratze Thank you. I'm not going back. The only reason I went back the first time was because more than half of my Steam games would not run on Linux. Now, I'm yet to find one that doesn't. I win. 😎

spineberg (resplendent)

@schratze windows asked me how likely it would be for me to recommend windows to friends and family, so i switched to an operating system that already knows that i would not recommend it to anyone

dwagenk

@schratze oh, that didn't work for me. Do I need to switch away from Linux now, just to have something to hate?

schratze

@dwagenk no reason to switch if you don't hate your OS

luci

@schratze @dwagenk no, if you do not hate your os you should look into details until you do

teledyn π“‚€

@schratze

just remember that you can hate Linux for free, whereas it costs you up-front license fees to hate those other operating systems!

duc :enbyfied:

@schratze@todon.nl I dual-boot so that I can hate both (and criticize Windows more for the same problem)

ZbeulΓ©mignon

@schratze me everytime when I hate linux: I switch a few minutes to minutes so I can love linux again :D

Mina

@schratze i did that twenty one years ago
then my first job was on Solaris, and i didn't hate that entirely, because i didn't have to maintain it
then i switched most of my professional stuff from Linux to FreeBSD, and now i hate that instead

i think what I'm trying to say is that you should diversify your operating systems hate portfolio.

Viv, the puntidy mess

@meena That last line should go into the brand new sentence Hall of Fame. @schratze

Sindastraβ™€οΈβœ…

@schratze

I switched to a Mac...

So now I can hate on Windows AND Linux. ( Ν‘Β° ΝœΚ– Ν‘Β°)

schratze

@sindastra I thought using Mac OS only makes you hate Mac OS

Sindastraβ™€οΈβœ…

@schratze It was a joke, referring to people "hating" on other systems, thinking their own is the best. It's a bit of a stereotype for Mac and Linux users ("I use Arch, BTW."). I don't actually do that, though. (:

However, may I interest you in some really nice macOS features?

I'm kidding, of course. πŸ‘€

*starts sweating*

schratze

@sindastra no yeah everyone should just use what works for them imo. Using Linux doesn't make you a better person

Z̈oé

@schratze @sindastra it does make me a better person because I'm less frustrated πŸ˜…

schratze

@uint8_t @sindastra that's relatable lol

ZoiΓ«ty of Queer Garden

@schratze @uint8_t @sindastra hah funny that’s what I have with sleeping

Sindastraβ™€οΈβœ…

@schratze Yeah, I completely agree. (:

I used to use Windows, Mac, Linux, they all have their strengths and weaknesses.

I could now jokingly say, "so now I hate all systems". πŸ˜†

Sindastraβ™€οΈβœ…

@schratze I jumped between systems for years, never quite happy. I liked macOS, but that was tied to not so great Apple hardware. Ever since they released the M1, I settled for that, and I'm happy with it.

So, I get the "whatever works for you", everyone has their preferences (although for many years, I felt like nothing worked for me).

So, I hope you know my joke was really just a joke, and that I don't hate on other people's OS choice. πŸ˜…

*social anxiety creeping up*

schratze

@sindastra no no it really is fine. I mean. My original joke is kind of ambiguous, too.

Elenna, Goo Girl

@schratze correct, it doesn't make *you* a better person. Only me /j @sindastra

Tor Lillqvist

@sindastra @schratze Which Linux distro attracts the most haters of other distros (not to mention other OSes)? Debian or Gentoo? No, wait, surely Devuan?

Peque

@schratze I can't complain with Linux. I used it for 3 years aprox. (Manjaro and PopOS) and haven't experienced that much problems. Now I'm trying windows 11, did a fresh install and after 2 months I'm a bit frustrated. Now it can't detect audio sources plugged after the boot.

Jared πŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆβš§οΈπŸ‘½

@schratze i was trying to think of something witty as a retort then I realised it was a metaphor. LOL

Rui Craveiro

@schratze Naaa... It's been a few years since I definitely switched and I still love Fedora.

Mathi

@schratze mix it with some good old Nvidia card to amplify the effect

Mateus

@schratze Or in my case, if you hate Windows, simply *try* to switch to Linux, so you can hate your hardware vendor instead...

BOFH πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

Actually you don’t even need to switch now.

Both Windows 11 and Windows 10 have the Windows Subsystem for Linux which integrates a Linux distro (Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch, etc.) natively on your machine and on your desktop.

Eli the Bearded

@schratze Pretty sure this works with Mac OS, too.

AnyaπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆβœ¨

@schratze ah, but on Linux, you can dig around in ancient mailing list entries _why_ that particular thing you hate ended up being that way

Kyle Johnson

@schratze I feel like that’s not hardcore enough. If you switch to MacOS you have to buy all new hardware. With that you can hate yourself for all the money you spent AND hate the OS too.

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@kyleejohnson @schratze You don't if you Hackintosh, which allows you to instead of going bankrupt hate yourself for wasting 16 hours patching together an EFI out of random kexts and drivers on github just to get the thing to boot

M. The Crystalline Entity

@schratze With WSL, you can now hate both at the same time!

Moving Pictures

@schratze
Excepting for the fact I have been running Unbutu since version 6, and only had ONE problem (which took fifteen minutes to fix), and other than that, zero downtime or technical issues.
As opposed to various (work- or wife-induced) Windows issues that have cost dozens of hours of downtime.
So, no.

schratze

@Moving_Pictures I use linux exclusively, I'm allowed to make this type of joke and I will continue to do so until I have solved the KWallet issue that has been bugging me for one and a half years and which I still haven't found a working solution for

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