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Vic Uzumeri

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The distributed administration and diverse community structure also give it resistance to large scale bot and disinfo campaigns.

My main beef is that some design constraints of ActivityPub are generally poorly explained.

E.g, I've seen virtually no discussion about its "lossy" memory model. No instance sponsor can afford to archive all of the Fediverse message traffic. Hence, full search is impossible.

To me, that's a feature of ActivityPubs resistance to abuse. But others expect it.

8 January at 16:41 | Wall-to-wall | Open on cosocial.ca
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👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)

@vicuzumeri Data impermanence and content obscurity is a feature as far as I'm concerned. @evan

8 January at 16:43 | Open on wl0.9ch.nl
Vic Uzumeri

@adiz @evan

I fully agree, but it turns off my wife! I haven't succeeded in explaining the tradeoff to her 😞

8 January at 16:47 | Open on cosocial.ca
👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)

@vicuzumeri She's unsalvageable. Leave her on the pastures of Meta to get harvested like digital livestock. @evan

8 January at 16:52 | Open on wl0.9ch.nl
Vic Uzumeri

@adiz @evan

Umm ... are you married? There are costs to that strategy.

I'm just asking if some folks who are smarter than me can help craft an effective story. I suspect there are quite a few potential converts who might be helped.

You know, a "feature, not bug" type explanation.

8 January at 17:00 | Open on cosocial.ca
👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)

@vicuzumeri Just shout at her "JOIN OR DIE" over and over again. @evan

8 January at 17:02 | Open on wl0.9ch.nl
Regendans

@vicuzumeri @evan If you host a Mastodon (or Akkoma, Sharkey, GoToSocial, Epicyon, PixelFed and so on) instance for your family and if the software supports full text search and you'd enable it would that be a good compromise ?

8 January at 19:31 | Open on toot.community
Vic Uzumeri

@regendans @evan

I don't think there is any need to compromise on the design.

The limited distribution and archiving creates valuable friction against nefarious actors.

I can still search and find a ton of stuff, especially if my instance supports good feeds and I use hashtags effectively.

My point is that I've met many newbies who react in horror when they can't instantly find everything they want with a plain text search. "I can in X!"

IMO, just needs a clear and cogent explanation.

8 January at 19:51 | Open on cosocial.ca
cognitively accessible math

@vicuzumeri @adiz @evan It's growing your own instead of letting a billionaire plant and grow the fruit trees they want you to pick from?

8 January at 22:10 | Open on mathstodon.xyz
Puck Rickenbacker

@vicuzumeri
I'm currently looking into setting up a friendrica server for my FB friends, many who stay because they don't want to lose each other. It seems to look most like FB and if I can get them to try it, and they're all there, I think they'll be hooked. The trick is to get them to try it en masse I think, so no one is bumbling around alone. Not everyone wants to put in the work to curate their feed with no algorithm, so I'm going to try to get them in on the same day.

8 January at 19:38 | Open on sfba.social
Mary Hilton

@Puck @vicuzumeri the biggest problem with trying to get people off FB is the fact that they like the content being fed to them.
For the most part they're not particularly tech savvy or even learned in the ways of doing things other than guided by billionaires.
Mastodon and others are not that complicated for those who understand the intricacies, but not everyone can understand that. Most people on Mastodon are pretty technology oriented to start.

8 January at 20:27 | Open on mastodon.sdf.org
Mik3y

@vicuzumeri @evan Do we even know how much data is Put through the fediverse a day? What's the closest estimate?

8 January at 19:35 | Open on kolektiva.social
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