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Mastokarl

@eighthourlunch @henry_barreto @jcrabapple @TheBreadmonkey huh, isn‘t it actually the other way around? Only by requiring a subscription, and making money from me as their customer they can offer true anonymity in searches. Because they don‘t need to scan your content to serve you ads.

Very happy Kagi user.

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eighthourlunch

@Mastokarl @henry_barreto @jcrabapple @TheBreadmonkey Unless I'm looking at the source code and know that's what's in production, or have trusted a third party that can reasonably ensure the same, then no. Even then, they still collect personal data for payment and login.

I'm open to evidence, but I'm still wary about creating yet another login and monthly cost. Search used to work reasonably well without either.

meejah

@eighthourlunch @Mastokarl @henry_barreto @jcrabapple @TheBreadmonkey I'm in this boat: I like the _idea_ of Kagi, and am certainly open to paying for service / lack-of-ads / lack-of-"AI" -- but I do not love "look-aside" claims of anonymity.

That is, a "trust us, we're not logging the data that we definitely have access to". I'd rather have a protocol which doesn't give them access to these data (and this is why mentions of "privacy pass" are exciting).

Mastokarl

@eighthourlunch @henry_barreto @jcrabapple @TheBreadmonkey fully agree that an open-source search engine would be the one and only proof. For me, Kagi is a good compromise between privacy and power/usability.

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