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grechaw

@econads @TheBreadmonkey
Gad srsly what is Google doing?
They must think nobody actually needs real search anymore.
I've been training myself to add "-ai" to searches but maybe it's just time to make duckduck the default.

joël

@grechaw @econads @TheBreadmonkey you can filter out the ai-crap from google by udm14.com/ but that doesn't hinder anyone to generate a fake trailer or, scourge of the earth, an article that uses all the right keywords but has no information at all (every time I look up if a second movie/season of something is comming)

joël

@TheBreadmonkey yeah, that's my first try, too. But sometimes the information just isn't there or it's unsure if it's up to date

econads

@grechaw @TheBreadmonkey
I've not googled anything for years, dunno what all the fuss is about ;-) not that #duckduckgo is perfect, but it's certainly useable. I have turned off the AI summaries, but that's a 1 off cookie, not something I need to do every time.

Sir Egg of Nogg 🎅 🎄

@econads @TheBreadmonkey

I've been using the DDG browser and search for a few years. Generally happy with it.

Our work laptops updated to Win11, Edge, CoPilot and Google search set as defaults. It's just an awful experience.

Fortunately, it's not locked down so much that I couldn't swap to DDG.

econads

@Sir_Osis_of_Liver @TheBreadmonkey do companies get paid by MS to do that? What's the motivation?

Sir Egg of Nogg 🎅 🎄

@econads @TheBreadmonkey

I'm not sure.

We've got about 30k desktop/laptop Windows installs. If there was a financial benefit, I'm sure they'd go for it.

Jay

@econads @Sir_Osis_of_Liver @TheBreadmonkey It could be good deals at scale for MS licenses, and/or that IT departments select the easiest/most commonly used programs/OSes as the standard because having to troubleshoot every possibility with people who would say the browser they’re using is a “Mac” can get pretty tedious.

draeath

@WhiteCatTamer @econads @Sir_Osis_of_Liver @TheBreadmonkey it's the latter. MS doesn't give you anything for setting those defaults.

econads

@nilz @TheBreadmonkey
I think that's more eBay than DDG, it's an advert. DDG matches ads to the search queries rather than the person, which I'm fine with.

econads

@Atemu @TheBreadmonkey
That's interesting, compared to the other kagi screenshot, it doesn't actually give you info about 5. I guess there's some personalisation behind the scenes? I know you can configure some things.

Atemu

@econads @TheBreadmonkey

Yup that's it. Wikipedia is boosted for me because it's a useful factual source in most cases.

If I was into movies, I'd also likely have blocked many rumor mill shites entirely, so they wouldn't turn up at all.
You can see two sites are blocked already but I don't know or care which.

What also makes these results more bearable is that listicles ("Top 10 leaks about John Wick 5" or whatever) are filtered out entirely without needing to block the sites manually.

@econads @TheBreadmonkey

Yup that's it. Wikipedia is boosted for me because it's a useful factual source in most cases.

If I was into movies, I'd also likely have blocked many rumor mill shites entirely, so they wouldn't turn up at all.
You can see two sites are blocked already but I don't know or care which.

econads

@Atemu @TheBreadmonkey
I looked at using kagi and while I had my 100 free searches I was using it as a backup if I couldn't find what I wanted on DDG, but I wasn't using it often enough to justify paying the monthly fee.

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