Gregory's ServerGoogle finally did it. Is it time to switch to Firefox? I believe users should be in control of what they can install and use on their desktop or laptop. There's uBlock Origin Lite, which replaces the original uBlock Origin for Chrome and similar browsers. Give it a try.
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@melroy @ricardo @nixCraft I think Firefox is the bare minimum, its possible to hardent it, but for simplicity, those options have some adventages, but for libre wolf, I think it's a small team, so maby update wont come as fast as firefox. For Floorp, dunno who is behind it, but heard good thing about it, so, I'll probably give it a shot. @doctor_zoidberg @lpryszcz @ricardo @nixCraft @zenbrowser @Vivaldi Antitrus lawsuit from US gouvernement will probably for them to turn on their user, a way or an other, without Google revenue @lpryszcz @ricardo @nixCraft @zenbrowser @Vivaldi Vivaldi unfortunately does run on the Chromium backend. The question is how long they can maintain a fork and keep Google's uselessness out.  @mcSlibinas @ricardo @nixCraft @hindsight @ricardo @nixCraft so cool! So you are an exception of average user or average of average user? My opinion - average user web browse as farming in greenhouse: he plants dozen or less sites on start page, it's some social, some shoping, some communall and browse inside those plants. Librewolf forgets every thing average user needs. So that's why i suggest floorp. I can set floorp for "mom" and it will work later forever. Librewolf - only one session. Can you understand?  @mcSlibinas "Average nontechnical user" is sure longer to type but doesn't insult anyone or perpetuate harmful stereotypes.  @nixCraft @nixCraft @snagburz @nixCraft DNT is and was never a protection. The website decides how to respond to this flag. If they want or not want to respect your wish not to be tracked. I bet the most sites ignore how it is set. For me its not a criteria choosing a browser. And dont forget to seperate Desktop and mobile. I really like Firefox based browsers but when unsing Android, sandboxing is still better in Chromium based ones. Not an unimportant fact.  @snagburz @nixCraft  @nixCraft Chromium should still support it. Try Brave unless you have issues with using it.   @nixCraft >Is it time to switch to Firefox? That time was long ago, friend. >There's uBlock Origin Lite, which replaces the original uBlock Origin for Chrome and similar browsers. Give it a try. There's Firefox, which replaces Chrome and similar browsers. Give it a try.   @nixCraft yes, use Firefox (since forever). IMHO, this rubbish trend of slating Mozilla at the slightest displeasure is supremely ungracious, and reeks of entitlement. I will still use Firefox. I have never used Chrome. Try slating Microsoft, or actual life threatening and dangerous corporations that deserve it. @Random_Seed @nixCraft This. Firefox with multiple containers extension, and all the privacy stuff of course, is still great. I know that the Web is build around chromium, but it's been ages since I've run into an incompatibility. And without Mozilla, we have nothing but Google/chromium. Not my preferred future.   @nixCraft Vivaldi isn't perfect, but seems to do a decent job (and uBlock Origin still works even though it's chromium based) @Offbeatmammal@mastodon.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social I'm a Vivaldi user as well. My Ublock extension was still working as of last night.  @nixCraft Its fairly simple. If someone cant do it on its own, help them.  I never left the Mosaic, Netscape, Firefox line of developments. And quite happy with that. Since 1993. @nixCraft There's still another option apparently: https://mamot.fr/@talou/113687423084160020 @nixCraft remember also #pihole Not only for #raspberrypi I run It on #docker and It can use the same add blocking lists that uses #uBlockOrigin @nixCraft I'm pretty happy with Zen Browser (Desktop) and Mull (Mobile). Both are debloated Firefox bases. @nixCraft YES, switch to the non-megacorporation browser. it's an obvious choice tbh :) The other option is using brave, though I highly doubt they will maintain the extension when the v3 requirement is rolled out fully
@nixCraft @nixCraft lynx. No. But how utterly surprising. Nowadays I use Safari but when I had a GUI linux box (now itโs just the server and the one with a GUI, fedora, is down for a while) I used firefox. I am surprised you still used chrome. Google talks about how safe and secure chrome is and how many attacks chrome prevents but itโs rubbish like this that does the exact opposite. But itโs unsurprising sadly. @nixCraft re: Firefox. I did start using it a many years back but i) it kept giving 404 errors, when there were none ii) lack of uptake meant less 'reach'. For information gatherers like myself that was a big -ve.  @nixCraft There's an old proverb that goes: "The best time to switch to Firefox is twenty years ago. The second best time is now." @JustinH @nixCraft @nixCraft @trendytoots ublock on windows 11/Firefox no longer works with YouTube. Iโm hoping that changes. @donburnside @nixCraft @trendytoots AdBlock works now. I switched. Then I may switch back when uBlock updates.  @nixCraft I like the look and feel of @zenbrowser which is also based on firefox. However, it just entered beta.  @nixCraft I've never switched to Chrome. It looks like it was a good decision. @nixCraft  @nixCraft I've used Firefox since it came out. I don't know what people have against it.  @nixCraft Firefox has been documented as having its own issue in recent months... ..I'd say switch it up between FF, Brave and Opera. I think Duckduck do a browser too - certainly for mobile. @nixCraft My theory is that, when it comes to buy a product of an established type, if available, choose the second best brand. The market-leading best brand will mix some crappy aspects as long as they think they won't cost them the market-leading position. The second-best brand, on the other hand, doesn't usually affort that and will usually keep away from the crap factor as much as possible (unless the 'crap' is a market's de-facto standard). @nixCraft Sad day, but for some pwa, its required, use it only when required, rest of the time, my Firefox with hardened script feature, probably give a shot at Floorp.   @nixCraft I switched away from Chrome years ago. YouTube tried to stop me from using an adblocker, but it's easy to get around with Brave. I've heard of problems with Brave's CEO, but it just works for me usually. If the scandal with Brave is too much for you, Firefox, Vivaldi, or Opera are good too. There's also Chromium which is basically de-googled chrome. Don't let them feed you garbage advertising. Pro-tip: many VPNs can do adblocking as well.  @nixCraft is ungoogled chromium still a thing? I'm told chrome-based browsers have better sandboxing/site isolation than firefox-based (especially on mobile). Adding the container tabs/even more extensions likely harms privacy more than it helps ๐ฅบ @nixCraft YES! Why is this a question for so many. With many of these things we complain and complain, but are unwilling to change. Well, this thing sucks now; I guess I'll deal with it. This thing is more expensive now; guess I'll buy it anyway. It is so frustrating to me. Windows, Chrome, fast food, new cars, etc. etc. Everyone complains, but won't change. @nixCraft Somehow I have never seen a clear reason to switch. From #Firefox to Chrome that is. Google gets enough data already. Yes, granted, Firefox had a long bad stretch on Android with almost no extensions available. But at least it always *had* extensions. Why would I use a browser (Chrome) that is utterly unusable on mobile and hence desktop-only? With Firefox I've always had a usable browser on *all* of my devices. Including syncing of tabs and other cross-device convenience features. @nixCraft @briankrebs I switched to the Brave browser. Chromium based. Supports unblock origin. Has their own filters and privacy controls.  @nixCraft I switched to Edge a while back in anticipation of this event.   @nixCraft Chrome aka chromium is responsible for 90% of the crashed my Linux Mint machine suffers. It has always been time to switch to Firefox (don't ignore the anti-FF type lately, follow it and comment as a userโฆ also check out waterfox) (I worked at NSCP back in the day, Core Technologies) @nixCraft But yeah, Firefox is probably the safest bet for usability. |
@nixCraft@mastodon.social I heard that uBlock Lite isn't as fully-featured though.
Switching to Firefox is probably the best thing to do. Google will only get worse and worse from here. Sure, Firefox also isn't the best but it's better than Google.