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Linda Woodrow

@Radical_EgoCom @FisherPeter "Corporate" is shells within shells financialised to the point where the ownership is derivatives of derivatives. "Means of production" gets wierd when applied to things like orbital space for satellites or attention (media) or the cultural heritage as digitalised, that AI is comandeering, or the limited atmospheric landfill space for greenhouse gases. And supply and demand theory gets wierd when people have so much crap that op shops won't take donations of it. 2/2

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@lindawoodrow @FisherPeter

There is nothing outdated or non-applicable about the definition of capitalism I gave. Private ownership of the means of production is still private ownership, whether it be by single individuals or corporations, the accumulation of profit is still the primary motivator in business, and while large corporations have cornered many markets and have made competition with them near impossible, these corporations still compete with each other and with... 1/2

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@lindawoodrow @FisherPeter

...corporations in other countries. Just because modern capitalism doesn't adhere to the specific version of capitalism that Adam Smith envisioned doesn't make it not capitalism. Capitalism comes in many different forms. 2/2

Alexandre Oliva
@Radical_EgoCom @lindawoodrow @bhasic ISTM that as capitalism entered the so-called imperialist phase, over a century ago, feudalism swallowed capitalism, and proletariat, petit bourgoise and even customers were turned into vassals. antitrust law held that movement in check for some time, but eventually corporate power grew and got concentrated enough that it could control governments that would otherwise enforce antitrust law. what we live under is neither capitalism nor feudalism, or it is both. it's a chimera with significant elements of both.
@Radical_EgoCom @lindawoodrow @bhasic ISTM that as capitalism entered the so-called imperialist phase, over a century ago, feudalism swallowed capitalism, and proletariat, petit bourgoise and even customers were turned into vassals. antitrust law held that movement in check for some time, but eventually corporate power grew and got concentrated enough that it could control governments that would otherwise enforce antitrust law. what we live under is neither capitalism nor feudalism, or it is both....
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