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 @stefan Thanks, I’ll check it out and compare the results of the poll to the info I’ll get there.  @AlinaLeonova Ah, sorry, my reply was aimed at the person tagging me, I did not mean to be too dismissive! Either way, you're welcome! I do find that results of these self-reporting polls skew a bit more positive, while this bot (not made by me, by the way) shows the average rate of around 35-40% of images having alt text. And that is not to say anything about the quality of the alt text, which can sometimes be pretty inadequate. @stefan Oh, that’s much lower than I expected 😔 Yeah, I think those who don’t do it might just not vote. I’ve seen that some people get annoyed when asked to add alt-text and even when others do it for them in the comments (which is such an asshole response!), so they’re probably annoyed by the poll as well 😁 @stefan Block the person? Wow, I didn’t expect anyone to do it. Just 1% but still 🤦🏻♀️ And I’ve seen people insult those who add alt-text for them in the comments (there was a thread about it recently from an art account, I’ll try to find it), which is just… I don’t even know what to say about those people. @AlinaLeonova Yes, saw this, thank you! And yeah, I've read about people getting blocked without being rude or snarky when providing alt text, I think some people just get too defensive about this, see it as a judgement no matter how you phrase your reply. And genuinely I don't know what the best solution is here. In the article I shared in my original post, it's clear that the interface and available tools can make a big difference. How to change the culture though? I'm not so sure! @stefan How to change the culture is the most important question! Tools are definitely important. Posts from blind users who say how alt-text impacts their experience have made a big impression on me, though admittedly I was already using alt-text. Conversations about it, education. It’s already much better here in the Fediverse than anywhere else, but we still have a long way to go. @AlinaLeonova Definitely! This is the main motivation behind @alttexthalloffame, education, and inspiration.  @stefan @AlinaLeonova What i mean is, i would be strongly prefer if the standard would be to have much more "normal" text here like 1k or more bytes, and then this one text just describes everything including the picture The problem with this approach is the same image may mean different things in different contexts. Exif data could possibly provide some sort of “default” or fallback alternative text but it still needs human curation. You may find this helpful. I hope you do. https://design.scotentblog.co.uk/providing-text-alternatives-for-non-text-content/  @AlinaLeonova @stefan I can't even get autocorrect to work.  @AlinaLeonova @stefan I don't consider it bad but helpful if someone adds an Alt text as a comment. And usually I see them later added to the picture, with thanks even. It might be just my bubble, but prefer to think the fedi people are generally that nice and caring. @Ulan_KA That seems to align with many other people's experience! @AlinaLeonova @stefan |
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I'm not too sure if polls like this are all that insightful, to be quite honest. You can always look at the results of @AltTextHealthCheck (see also https://stefanbohacek.com/blog/alttexthealthcheck-image-accessibility-report-1/ -- perhaps it would be useful to do another update, see if the trend has started to pick up.)