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Darius Kazemi

What do we think will be the US-American millennial equivalent of like.... liver and onions? What I mean is when I was growing up that was a food that was on a lot of restaurant menus but understood to be for Old People Tastes. You don't see it on menus so much these days now that those particular old people are dead.

So what food tastes good to my millennial cohort that is going to be seen as gross to kids and young adults in like... 2050?

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Eli the Bearded

@darius @Craigp

I think a lot of the older ones that have fallen out of favor now where foods invented for that generation ("chop suey") or based on foods that were economically foisted upon them ("liver and onions").

Based on the first, vast swaths of engineered food might go away. Based on the second, not sure. But meat may fall out of economically favored if climate impact is weighed in.

DJ Sundog - from the toot-lab

@darius

McRib

retires to millennial-proof bunker and puts on Donald Fagen records

Darius Kazemi

One of my favorite things to do is read culinary and food history. You read enough of this you start to notice that "traditional" foods, even the ones that people swear up and down have Always Been The Food of Our People, are almost universally not much older than the grandparents of the oldest people currently alive.

I grew up on "traditional" Iranian food. I read primary historic sources on this stuff & most of what is claimed to be long-standing tradition was invented after 1900

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@darius in much the same way that some people believe the vikings made it to atlantic canada, i believe italy made it to the americas thousands of years ago and have been eating tomatoes ever since

nadja

@darius Huh. In that case I have just lucked out into the two culinary cultures that are actually *really* old by most others' standards? :D

Darius Kazemi

@dequbed I encourage you to look into the actual history (I haven't even looked at your bio to see what those cultures might be, this is just a recommendation I make to everyone who thinks their food lineage is ancient. Even religious stuff, there's like, major translation and meaning changes over time, it's all interpretation that shifts)

nadja

@darius Venezuelan food (specifically Arepas) are considered to be the oldest recipe still cooked in more or less unchanged form last I checked, so I'm pretty good on that front. ;)
I don't know too much about the Aschkenazi Jewish food, but big parts of what I know are definitely at least 16th…ish century old.

rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua

@darius

Here sometimes there are "medieval reenactments" where they prepare potatoes and tomatoes 🤣

Darius Kazemi

@CarlMuckenhoupt thanks to my library I'm reading this RIGHT NOW

brennen

@darius huh. growing up in the US midwest in the 80s/90s so completely inside the blast radius of post-war food science and the ongoing depopulation of rural ag areas conditioned me to think of my people as uniquely cut off from legacy food culture, but maybe this is a way more global thing than i think.

Chancerubbage

@darius @Binder

Corned beef almost was completely replaced by pastrami over the past 30 years because of menu inflation; pastrami was given the fancy luxury food treatment, corned beef was given the proletariat menu shove. They are very close to exactly the same thing.

christianmlong

@darius Carbonara is my favorite example of this.

Darwin Woodka

@darius All that stupid quinoa kale and acai. Ick.

Dan Bruno

@darius Maybe pumpkin spice lattes? That feels like a shift that may have a latent cultural force behind it…

d.rift

@darius

This is why I can't get liver and onions anymore?!

It's CountryTime powdered lemonade, btw.

morgan

@darius I mean, just by the connotations, I'd say Avocado toast. 😅

Louisa

@darius I wonder if it'll be the inauthentic global foods changed for American tastes in the 20th century

Hard shell tacos, orange chicken, spaghetti and meatballs. I could see future generations saying "this isn't real [location] food, but my grandma loves it because she doesn't know any better"

Challah, Head Cha-La

I could essay on about this for hours but genuinely I think Julia Child introducing Americans to real home cooking changed the dynamics of the kind of cultural irrelevance pipeline you’re talking about. We don’t really have a contemporary to “steak diane” and whatnot because we basically do not craft dishes that way anymore.

Pippa Brooks

@darius Peanuts. It seems like everyone I know with kids has someone in their classroom with a severe allergy to them

enshittified catgirl

@darius air fryer and sous vide recipes will go the way of the aspic, since they're all people trying to figure out new technology and making crimes in the process

Max

@darius I would guess some “mid-century” microwave cuisine/freezer foods would be easy places to watch. TV Dinners have mostly already changed forms and the “classics” are disappearing/only remain for nostalgia; I’ve seen frozen Salisbury steak “patties” directly on hipster menus like liver and onions used to show up/our generation’s shared frozen foods childhood meatloaf nightmare; maybe even some “big” things like pizza rolls or Pop Tarts don’t survive long term.

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