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Darius Kazemi

One of my favorite things to do is read culinary and food history. You read enough of this you start to notice that "traditional" foods, even the ones that people swear up and down have Always Been The Food of Our People, are almost universally not much older than the grandparents of the oldest people currently alive.

I grew up on "traditional" Iranian food. I read primary historic sources on this stuff & most of what is claimed to be long-standing tradition was invented after 1900

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@darius in much the same way that some people believe the vikings made it to atlantic canada, i believe italy made it to the americas thousands of years ago and have been eating tomatoes ever since

nadja

@darius Huh. In that case I have just lucked out into the two culinary cultures that are actually *really* old by most others' standards? :D

Darius Kazemi

@dequbed I encourage you to look into the actual history (I haven't even looked at your bio to see what those cultures might be, this is just a recommendation I make to everyone who thinks their food lineage is ancient. Even religious stuff, there's like, major translation and meaning changes over time, it's all interpretation that shifts)

nadja

@darius Venezuelan food (specifically Arepas) are considered to be the oldest recipe still cooked in more or less unchanged form last I checked, so I'm pretty good on that front. ;)
I don't know too much about the Aschkenazi Jewish food, but big parts of what I know are definitely at least 16th…ish century old.

rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua

@darius

Here sometimes there are "medieval reenactments" where they prepare potatoes and tomatoes 🤣

Darius Kazemi

@CarlMuckenhoupt thanks to my library I'm reading this RIGHT NOW

brennen

@darius huh. growing up in the US midwest in the 80s/90s so completely inside the blast radius of post-war food science and the ongoing depopulation of rural ag areas conditioned me to think of my people as uniquely cut off from legacy food culture, but maybe this is a way more global thing than i think.

Chancerubbage

@darius @Binder

Corned beef almost was completely replaced by pastrami over the past 30 years because of menu inflation; pastrami was given the fancy luxury food treatment, corned beef was given the proletariat menu shove. They are very close to exactly the same thing.

christianmlong

@darius Carbonara is my favorite example of this.

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