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⊢≪ Noctilua ≫⊣
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F4GRX Sébastien

@noctilua @dansup well no matrix has many problems on the libre side and the element company having effective control of the platform and clients. I will not use it.

27 October at 9:55 | Open on chaos.social
Hennadii Chernyshchuk

@f4grx @noctilua @dansup What kind of problems on the libre side? All major FOSS projects use it for collaboration, such as GNOME, KDE or Codeberg.

> element company having effective control

They have control over their client, but there are other clients.

27 October at 9:59 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
F4GRX Sébastien

@Shatur @noctilua @dansup It's a nightmare to self host last time I checked, which is what I would like to do.

27 October at 10:00 | Open on chaos.social
Hennadii Chernyshchuk

@f4grx @noctilua @dansup I never tried self-hosting it, but even if that's the case - it's a different issue.

27 October at 10:02 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
F4GRX Sébastien

@Shatur @noctilua @dansup No, if I cant self host it, they're making it hard for me to use, which means they want to keep control. thats out of question for me. Call me extreme, thats ok.

27 October at 10:04 | Open on chaos.social
⊢≪ Noctilua ≫⊣

@f4grx @Shatur @dansup

Installation hardship does not inheritly mean control over thing in question. You are never tied to the flagship instance, nor to Element as a client; if you have hard time selfhosting it, you can alway choose a provider who went through weeds and enabled signups. Admin of my homeinstance hosts a Matrix instance, so I stuck with it, and I use Fractal to access it. I don't feel inferior to users of flagship instance either.

27 October at 10:18 | Open on social.noleron.com
Hennadii Chernyshchuk

@f4grx @noctilua @dansup There are plenty of other instances, so I don't think it's that hard.

27 October at 10:21 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
F4GRX Sébastien

@Shatur @noctilua @dansup Thank you all for telling me how I can use matrix but that was not my concern.

27 October at 10:22 | Open on chaos.social
Hennadii Chernyshchuk

@f4grx @noctilua @dansup That's not what I said.

You mentioned that it has libre issues and that Element controls it, but that's not true. By saying other instances exist, I meant that other people have figured out how to self-host it and it's not that hard to do.

27 October at 10:29 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
F4GRX Sébastien replied to Hennadii

@Shatur @noctilua @dansup OK, so the problem is in my initial description, but I still feel bad with this project even if I dont describe it correctly.

27 October at 10:30 | Open on chaos.social
Hennadii Chernyshchuk replied to F4GRX

@f4grx @noctilua @dansup That's a totally valid complain!
That's sad, I hope they improve it 😢

27 October at 10:32 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
⊢≪ Noctilua ≫⊣

@f4grx @Shatur @dansup

You are not wrong in that it is tedious to self-host, never did this myself, but folks who did almost universally tell it's such a mess of a service. At least whatever that main Python backend, I believe people had better experience hosting the beta Rust one.

27 October at 10:30 | Open on social.noleron.com
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