@cederbs so annoyed because I previously wrote notes for a potential blog post

@cederbs I'd post some facepalm meme here but no amount of facepalming would be enough

@cederbs versatile material used almost everywhere vs. chatbot

@cederbs its so close to being self aware it hurts.

@cederbs new, exciting (for some), allows for cheap knock-offs, enables new approaches to things, produces a lot of garbage and will likely kill us all.

@cederbs We already knew AI was environmentally unsound, and now they are admitting it drowns dolphins?

@cederbs they almost had it... -_-'

@cederbs With the problem we have with microplastics, it seems like a good comparison.

@cederbs lol

@cederbs i almost died from the cringe, help

@cederbs my first impression was: plastic garbage is moving to the digital sphere

@cederbs Christ, almighty.

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@cederbs Wow.

@cederbs I think they are hoping they can hold their breath for 20 years while they influence the children.

@cederbs it's the new plastic - tacky, tasteless thing that should have never been

@cederbs This honestly looks and sounds like something written by an AI robot, partly because its missing any semblance of humanity but also partly because it sounds like its trying to convince us why AI is great, which is exactly what it wants us to think!! I'm not falling for it

@cederbs I have to hope this is a dig at AI instead of being that unaware of how bad plastic is

@cederbs clearly no notion at all

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When I saw the title, I thought it was a pretty accurate observation. Because plastic enabled us to produce huge amounts of mediocre quality items that nobody needs. That seems exactly like what AI is doing.

@cederbs Imagine thinking plastic is good actually

@cederbs this is the kind of advertising you get when you fire your marketing team and hire the AI.

Death to plastic as I say!!!

@cederbs can wait for people to start telling me i have micro-ai in my balls

@cederbs The irony is how close they are to getting it. Fill in the blank - is it plastic or AI?

___ was thought to be a modern miracle, so now it's literally everywhere now (including our brains). But don't worry, capitalists said, we can recycle the material so that it never becomes poisonous garbage. Oops, the companies lied (and continue to lie) about the content of their products and what could actually be done with them. Now we're facing the not-quite-slow death of society.

@cederbs satire?

@cederbs To be fair, the last part explain it a bit more: https://www.notion.so/blog/ai-is-the-new-plastic . Still, not perfect, but the blog post is longer than this couple of sentences.

@cederbs@infosec.exchange great, there's microAIs in the water...

@cederbs i just thought it on the negative way XD

@cederbs ai is like a religion. people pay money to believe in things that work Not The Way You Think They Do and ask questions to a mind that has never existed.

@cederbs Based on the discussion in the comments, the obvious solution for plastic recycling is to use AI to sort them out.

@cederbs But then again, if people who lived before us had used plastics in a more responsible way, we wouldn't be in the current mess.

And if people who have access to lots of money and computing power right now would use AI techniques in a more responsible way, we wouldn't get into the foreseeable AI mess.

In summary, we're screwed both ways. :blobcatsad:

@cederbs o noes! micro-ai will be everywhere
in 50 years... i mean, plastics had absolutely no negative consequences, right? .. right?

@cederbs the only thing they really have in common is the fabrication of a product for the express purpose of using and needing oil.

@cederbs D:

@cederbs Dehumanized, mass-marketed, plastic culture? I'd say that sizes it up pretty well.

@cederbs yeah it’s also polluting everything and destroying humanity and the earth.

@cederbs Just like the nuclear bomb disrupted the war sector, our new AI models are bringing. . .

@cederbs Might as well compare AI to asbestos 😅

@cederbs AI is indeed the new plastic, and it's hilarious that anyone would think of that as a good thing.

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Yet another reason I'm happy with #Obsidian.

@cederbs o\ *plaf*

@cederbs They aren't even making a point. They're plagiarizing it.

frankchimero.com/blog/2013/what-screens-want/

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Plastics may be half accurate, cars are the perfect analogy :
- Car is the "one-size-fits-all" of mobility.
- It consumes a lot more energy than needed in most use cases.
- it generates a fair amount of pollution, in the air, but also in the shape of the grey areas that invaded our cities : highways and car parks. It destroys social structures and landscapes.

@cederbs@infosec.exchange That awkward moment when you choose the right metaphor, but completely miss the obvious conclusion.

@cederbs @davey_cakes trashing the planet, just like plastic

@cederbs ja und genauso Energieverschwendung und Co2 Schleuder wie das Plastik. Sorry aber es wird mir persönlich zu sorglos benutzt. Heute sind unsere Meere voll von Plastik und unser Internet wird auch schon mit ai Textbund Bild überschwemmt. Menschliche Kreativität wohin gehst Du?

@cederbs That tracks! It looks like a quick and easy solution and then we're stuck with dealing with the pollution and flimsy products.

Information is the new oil, AI is the new plastic.

@cederbs somehow, everything in that picture looks like it's going to fall over

@cederbs @lmorchard how is that possibly real?

@cederbs 😒

Just as we have to laboriously remove microplastics from rivers, lakes and oceans, we will have to laboriously clean up AI-polluted information and data in the future!

@cederbs is AIs Future also "in the trashbin" as the famous sales pitch that made the plastic industry what it is today? Yes.

@cederbs cant wait for pfas-ai and micro-ai .. oh wait the internet is allready flooded with their bs generated contend and there is no way of getting it out anymore, yes mch like plastic.

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@cederbs Is it satirical?

@cederbs like plastic AI can't be recycled or repaired. Like plastic it pollutes its environment until it is impossible to sieve it out and keep it from acting poisonous on hitherto healthy processes and knowledge bases.

@cederbs This is really on-the-nose considering the finding 2 months ago that human brains are now 0.5% microplastic pollution by weight. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/aug/21/microplastics-brain-pollution-health

@cederbs useful yes. But should have been more tightly regulated from the outset.

@cederbs @jalefkowit

@cederbs https://youtu.be/PSxihhBzCjk

@cederbs new? Looks like the 70s nightmare we luckily managed to escape from

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Original post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/notionhq_ai-is-reshaping-our-digital-landscape-much-activity-7252061435093004288-q7-W (Archive: https://archive.ph/qT6SP)

(There, you can see many of the top comments are critical or point out the environmental impacts of AI and plastic.)

@cederbs Gonna need a bigger meme

https://fediscience.org/@adam_wysokinski/113294993649606694

WTF? Did plastic write that post?

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@cederbs Even if it were true, we are now facing climate disaster because of plastic; so the comparison is...

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to be fair tho, "an unnecessary product that's been foisted on us by profit-seeking oligarchs, which is accelerating ecocide and can now be found in nearly everything you consume" could describe either AI or plastics. gotta give credit where it's due.

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That's quite accurate, surely? It's taken us far too long to realise using plastic everywhere is killing the world.

@cederbs whaa. The analogy netween AI and plastic is also something I would do.

But my conclusion are opposite to theirs #microplastic #pollution

One main difference is that eco-friendly plastic is possible (although not mainstream). Eco-friendly AI, like eco-friendly blockchain is not really possible.

#UseTheRightToolForTheJob

@cederbs just when i thought i couldn't hate notion more. kinda makes sense

@cederbs but you see, that's true! AI is indeed like plastic. However, I'd rather say, AI is like microplastic, you know, the tiny pieces of plastic polluting the oceans, the ones which are confirmed to be present in a lot of our body cells, including our brains? yeah, those

@cederbs At least they're true in the sense that it's terrible for the environment.

@cederbs @NotTheLBCGuy It's actually a pretty good comparison. Seems like a magical new thing for a couple of decade, then poison our world for centuries.

@cederbs let's rephrase it better : AI is the new oil

@cederbs it is scary how this article projects the similarity of AI with plastic in positive light. I wrote a thread a while back about the similarities between the plastic industry and AI in a not so flattering tone: https://androiddev.social/@kiranrao/112802240530043153

@cederbs It'll pollute everything, but we'll carry on ignoring the problem because it's too convenient?