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pixx

@eniko @angelastella @gabrielesvelto @cederbs My suspicion here is that microplastics wouldn't be without consumer culture, either.

The _amount of resources_ per person is orders of magnitude higher than makes sense.

If we used 1% of the plastic we use today, how bad would the microplastic crisis be?

pixx

@eniko @angelastella @gabrielesvelto @cederbs Sources!

> Unfortunately, the majority of plastic waste is being incinerated, dumped in landfills, and released into the environment, causing significant environmental and health problems (Wang et al. 2020a), with only a tiny percentage that does not exceed 10.0% recycled in the USA

10% is recycled. 90% is _incinerated or released into the environment_.

If we used 1% of the plastic we use today, we could easily manage 100% of it, no?

Anatol

@pixx @eniko @angelastella @gabrielesvelto @cederbs
Some interesting data - what I did not expect in there (ok, it's everywhere these days) is an unhealthy out of the blue dose of Covid denialism - "during the coronavirus disease 2019" (using "during" as if it were a thing of the past!); "should future waves of COVID-19 occur" (lmao?)

Ángela Stella Matutina

@dngrs @pixx @eniko @gabrielesvelto @cederbs

It's the name of the disease. And almost no one masks anymore, not even fucking healthcare workers, that's denialism for you.

Anatol replied to Ángela Stella Matutina

@angelastella The name is not the point - it's the "during". The paper very clearly uses "during" as if it's long gone. I've updated my original toot to clarify.

pixx

@eniko @angelastella @gabrielesvelto @cederbs Another source!

> sciencedirect.com/science/arti

> 50% of all plastics are single-use, as of 2018, and that share is rising

Given:

- Most microplastics comes from non-recycled plastic, and
- We have capacity to recycle ~10% of current plastic production, and
- Single-use plastics are 50% of current production, then

Conclusion:

Eliminating single use plastics (50% of current production) reduces microplastics by ~55.55%.

@eniko @angelastella @gabrielesvelto @cederbs Another source!

> sciencedirect.com/science/arti

> 50% of all plastics are single-use, as of 2018, and that share is rising

Given:

- Most microplastics comes from non-recycled plastic, and
- We have capacity to recycle ~10% of current plastic production, and
- Single-use plastics are 50% of current production, then

pixx

@eniko @angelastella @gabrielesvelto @cederbs (yes I know that it's way more complicated and this is just napkin math.)

ShadSterling

@pixx @eniko @angelastella @gabrielesvelto @cederbs why do people incinerate plastic? Is that better than burying it in a landfill?

ShadSterling

@angelastella @pixx @eniko @gabrielesvelto @cederbs I know at least some plastics do burn, but I imagine the energy density is pretty low since it’s the made from the stuff that gets removed when refining fossil fuels. And the fumes are awful. But I guess using it to power something is better than burning it because it’s cheaper than shipping it to a landfill

wb x64

@kranzi @eniko @pixx @angelastella @gabrielesvelto @cederbs also aluminum degrades into aluminum oxide, both naturally occuring minerals that can coexist with nature. Plastic is when you bring poisonous oils from Literal Mordor up to the surface and torture them into unholy abominations like Ken Dolls that never wanted to exist and can't degrade or be consumed normally

Cy
Plastic is when you privatize scientific research, and they find only the chemicals that will screw the world over but save the corporation from paying the bill. If we had publically accountable public research, and didn't allow giant corporations to control universities, patents and all researchers everywhere ever, we'd have disposable plastic that naturally biodegraded. Paper, basically. They just made their disposable material a toxic nightmare to clean up, because we're not making them clean it up. We can't make them clean it up, as long as corporations are private, with limited liability for investors, and money laundering mixnets to hide behind.

CC: @pixx@merveilles.town @angelastella@treehouse.systems @gabrielesvelto@fosstodon.org @cederbs@infosec.exchange
Plastic is when you privatize scientific research, and they find only the chemicals that will screw the world over but save the corporation from paying the bill. If we had publically accountable public research, and didn't allow giant corporations to control universities, patents and all researchers everywhere ever, we'd have disposable plastic that naturally biodegraded. Paper, basically. They just made their disposable material a toxic nightmare to clean up, because we're not making them clean...
Fiona Gregory

Bookmarking this for my favourite definition of plastic ever.

geoffl

@wilbr @kranzi @eniko @pixx @angelastella @gabrielesvelto @cederbs

Just don't Google "environmental damage bauxite mining", or do.

kranzi

@geoffl @wilbr @eniko @pixx @angelastella @gabrielesvelto @cederbs of course! I dont think it is "good", i only think it is better!

Iced Meu

@kranzi @eniko @pixx @angelastella @gabrielesvelto @cederbs polyethylene recycling is also easy and cheap. You just wash and melt it and it's good.
Yet somehow a lot of polyethylene bags end up in the ocean аnd landfills ​:neocat_woozy:​

Iced Meu

@eniko @pixx @angelastella @gabrielesvelto @cederbs
Yeah, bauxite mining is not known to have harmful effects on the environment and the people.

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