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Hi I'm Sean

@jalefkowit This is cute. Nit: You don't need a Super PAC to get this information

Jason Lefkowitz

@seano If you read the text again, you will see that it does not claim you do.

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@jalefkowit @seano
The reason for the SuperPAC becomes apparent as you read the entire website.

It's more apparent for people outside of the USA (who give enough of a shit about all this to know what a SuperPAC is).

Roadskater, Ph.D.

@seano @jalefkowit But it's abso-F-ing-lutely amazing how much money you can spend influencing an election if you've file papers as a PAC rather than just as a person. It's like RICO except very legal.

Ed Hurtley

@jalefkowit As someone who used to be involved with a political party, yep. There is an astounding amount of information in public records. Saw all the information they talk about having access to and a lot more.

One bonus if you live in a place with vote-by-mail/early voting - campaigns get updates every day on which voters have turned in their ballots. They don’t waste time on people who have already turned theirs in - so you can significantly cut down on political calls/texts/mail by turning in your ballot as early as possible.

@jalefkowit As someone who used to be involved with a political party, yep. There is an astounding amount of information in public records. Saw all the information they talk about having access to and a lot more.

One bonus if you live in a place with vote-by-mail/early voting - campaigns get updates every day on which voters have turned in their ballots. They don’t waste time on people who have already turned theirs in - so you can significantly cut down on political calls/texts/mail by turning in...

Jonathan Gerhardson

@aburka @jalefkowit Note the wording. They are paying you to "lean blue:" and "make a voting plan." It probably falls under the same laws as paying someone to endorse your candidacy for office, which is not illegal afaik.

Art Delano

@aburka @jalefkowit

(1) apologize for not voting last time, (2) walk us through a step-by-step plan of how they’d vote this time, and (3) post “Donald Trump is a human toilet” on social media

Technically they're neither paying people to vote nor to vote in a certain way; they're paying people to write a list of who they'd vote for if they voted. I suspect as long as there's no attempt at verifying whether they voted afterwards, the Cards Against Humanity PAC can claim there was no coercion.

I'm no lawyer though I can imagine an unfriendly court would not be particularly accommodating of how CAH interpreted the law.

@aburka @jalefkowit

(1) apologize for not voting last time, (2) walk us through a step-by-step plan of how they’d vote this time, and (3) post “Donald Trump is a human toilet” on social media

Technically they're neither paying people to vote nor to vote in a certain way; they're paying people to write a list of who they'd vote for if they voted. I suspect as long as there's no attempt at verifying whether they voted afterwards, the Cards Against Humanity PAC can claim there was no coercion.

aburka 🫣

@ardgedee @jalefkowit yeahhh I'm staying away from this one, it's clearly against the spirit of the law and likely to feed into fascist narratives

nil :demisexual_flag: (U) [!].7z

@aburka @jalefkowit they're technically paying people to make a post on social media, they aren't checking if you actually vote

RiaResists

@jalefkowit 😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I know I’m safe!

hermlon

@jalefkowit so the US finally goes full capitalism and doesn't even try to hide rich people with money are the ones controlling the masses with their money and hence the election, wtf en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_PAC

it gives me a bit of hope cards of humanity are so good at fighting back, that website is perfect

Shell :fedora: :kde:

@jalefkowit THIS is where us politics is? They can literally pay voters to vote a certain way? WTF? This happens here but it's very hush-hush and pretty fucking illegal.

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@shellheim @jalefkowit
"Who qualifies to get paid?

Any eligible voter who didn’t vote last time qualifies. But only blue-leaning people in swing states will get a BIG payment."

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@shellheim @jalefkowit
"If you agree with us that this is a pretty good idea, you can donate as much as you want during checkout for your 2024 Election Pack. Literally no limit, because we’re a Super PAC. This is the kind of crazy shit that happens when the Supreme Court rules that money is speech and corporations can spend unlimited amounts of cash influencing elections"

Paul Sochacki

@dec23k @shellheim @jalefkowit interesting. So if someone was blue-leaning but voted third party in the last election then they're no longer eligible for a bribe. Not surprising, I guess. Someone who cast a so called "protest vote" in the previous election would probably be harder to convince to sell their vote rather than someone who was too disinterested in the spectacle to even bother casting a vote in the first place.

For I am CJ :screwattack: :black_sparkling_heart: :screwattack:

@jalefkowit

Tha CAH people have generally been great to follow and interact with over the years... so you should go check out their "turn out the vote" site

and maybe get $100 for your time:

apologize.lol/

Strypey

Great share @jalefkowit! You may enjoy The Lever's #MasterPlan podcast. The John McCain quote I posted from it today is so relevant to this.

Strypey

"Lots of studies show that “making a voting plan” is one of the most effective ways to get a person to actually vote."

apologize.lol/

Huh. You learn something new every day. I know what I'm going to focus on in the next elections here...

#elections #voting #VotingPlan

Floppy 💾

@jalefkowit Holy cow. This was the wildest while most on-point FAQ I've ever read. While, you know, the whole initiative being great although the context is pretty messed up at the same time.

R🎅🏼B 🏳️‍🌈 RMiddleton.Art

How is this not illegal??? Cards Against Humanity is PAYING people who didn't vote in 2020 to apologize, make a voting plan, and post #DonaldTrumpIsAHumanToilet—up to $100 for blue-leaning people in swing states.

Wtf?! See: Apologize.lol

*I am down with this company's attitude so I'm obeying & posting what they told me to

R🎅🏼B 🏳️‍🌈 RMiddleton.Art

Also: Is there some way I can force Elon Musk to pay $47 to Cards Against Humanity PAC?
Funny you should ask! If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC (petition.theamericapac.org/) put “MuskIsDumb@cah.lol” as your referrer, and they'll be legally obligated to pay us $47. The more people who do this, the more Musk money we’ll get to un-fuck America.
If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again (cahsuesmusk.com/).

Also: Is there some way I can force Elon Musk to pay $47 to Cards Against Humanity PAC?
Funny you should ask! If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC (petition.theamericapac.org/) put “MuskIsDumb@cah.lol” as your referrer, and they'll be legally obligated to pay us $47. The more people who do this, the more Musk money we’ll get to un-fuck America.
If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again (cahsuesmusk.com/

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@jalefkowit

CAH is the hero we need.

“Is there some way I can force Elon Musk to pay $47 to Cards Against Humanity PAC?

Funny you should ask! If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC, put “MuskIsDumb@cah.lol” as your referrer, and they'll be legally obligated to pay us $47. The more people who do this, the more Musk money we’ll get to un-fuck America.
If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again.”

Jima :Compromise_bi_flag:

@crispius @jalefkowit *reads lists of states*

"Aw, I'm not in one of those states. 😔"

"🤔"

"...but my in-laws are! 😀"

Floppy 💾

@pixelcode I can't access Musk's PAC website from the outside (no idea what's going on there, but I can guess), but everything else I see is wow, indeed. @jalefkowit

Madame Aronow

@jalefkowit @catsalad the entire FAQ section is GOLD (and also terrifying)

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