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David Revoy
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Konqi

@davidrevoy Hello David! I did not realize that you are not using Wacom tablets anymore.

6 October at 14:15 | Open on mastodon.social
David Revoy

@Konqi Hey, yes. My last one was a Intuos Pro Large, a gift from Wacom (src: davidrevoy.com/article921/ ), but I managed to "scratch it to death" and make the stylus wobble so much in 9 months of intensive usage that this model wasn't usable anymore... Their quality really went downhill while still getting a high price tag.
On another hand, for the same period of usage my Artist 16 Pro gen2 of XpPen is still on my desk, and functional as in day 1. I'll soon try their 19 Artist Pro. 😊

6 October at 14:21 | Open on framapiaf.org
Konqi

@davidrevoy David, how good is Linux support using XP Pen vs Wacom, just for curiosity.

6 October at 14:36 | Open on mastodon.social
David Revoy

@Konqi On Wayland, both are still atrocious and reduced to bare minimum.

On X11, Wacom has a better support and some DE like Plasma propose a descent GUI for configuring them
On another hand, the XPPen models are supported mostly by pure luck when their circuit board is standard UGEE Tablet architecture already supported in the kernel, and then, even with that they require post tweaks and scripts. That's what I try to post on my blog, under the "hardware" tag davidrevoy.com/index.php?tag/h

@Konqi On Wayland, both are still atrocious and reduced to bare minimum.

On X11, Wacom has a better support and some DE like Plasma propose a descent GUI for configuring them
On another hand, the XPPen models are supported mostly by pure luck when their circuit board is standard UGEE Tablet architecture already supported in the kernel, and then, even with that they require post tweaks and scripts. That's what I try to post on my blog, under the "hardware" tag davidrevoy.com/index.php?tag/h

6 October at 14:41 | Open on framapiaf.org
Konqi

@davidrevoy Excellent! Thank you David, I was asking you about your experience because following your post series I started to get interested into maybe acquire one inexpensive table for personal use.

6 October at 14:53 | Open on mastodon.social
kate

@davidrevoy I was just thinking I should check your blog to see how that brand plays with foss... Your timing is immaculate

6 October at 14:17 | Open on federatedfandom.net
David Revoy

@kate 😊 Thank you. Well, I have so far workaround for the 16 Artist Pro (gen2) and the 24 Pro ( davidrevoy.com/index.php?tag/h ), all other model of this brand is still a bit in the unknown.
I decided to accept a review for their 19 Artist Pro, deadline: mid November (I still haven't got it). So, I hope this model will have the same circuit board than the 16 Artist Pro (gen2) and I'll can just copy paste my method and adjust some variable here and there. 😆

6 October at 14:49 | Open on framapiaf.org
Silmathoron ⁂

@davidrevoy you're on X11, right? Do you know if that works also for wayland?

6 October at 14:20 | Open on floss.social
David Revoy

@silmathoron Hey, yes, I'm still on X11, KDE Debian 12. (due to Krita not being designed for Wayland and buggy under XWayland, issues with color management, and tablet configuration).

Udev is also part of Wayland, afaik, so it should also work there ™ (but untested here)

6 October at 14:30 | Open on framapiaf.org
Topaz 🐇

@davidrevoy I had looked into this and decided to design my own macropad instead. I figured it would be a pain to configure in Linux. :blobcry:

6 October at 14:27 | Open on oldbytes.space
David Revoy

@TopazRabbit You did the right thing, imo! 👍

This ACK05 is so locked at its core... When I see in comparison the current Kickstarter for the new Duckypad Pro ( kickstarter.com/projects/dekun ) and all the features it puts on the table and the ease of configuration... the OLED screen, etc... :blobaww:

It's amazing how far XPpen are lagging behind in terms of usability despite having the hardware.

6 October at 14:35 | Open on framapiaf.org
poleguy

@TopazRabbit @davidrevoy I'd love to see your progress. I did a macropad for Linux for myself on the cheap. I use it daily and it is magical!

github.com/poleguy/remap

I also use a work provided huion Kamvas pro 13 for remote whiteboard type engineering work (krita mostly). Pen works fine but I never bothered configuring the buttons on it.

6 October at 15:43 | Open on mastodon.social
Topaz 🐇

@poleguy @davidrevoy Here's what I have so far. No public plans available yet, but I'll get around to it eventually. Uses QMK for config and has hot swappable sockets for the keys.

A macropad with two rotary encoders.
6 October at 16:08 | Open on oldbytes.space
raghukamath

@davidrevoy I have somewhat accepted this fate and tried to use it with the input remapper program. As for the tablet I wish to see udev-hid-bpf work with default Debian kernel. that would take away some burden of keeping the liquorix kernel up to date for security reasons.

6 October at 14:40 | Open on social.raghukamath.com
David Revoy

@raghukamath Oh yes, this Debian policy to not get the bpf system in their default kernels is really a pain...

I haven't retried the input-remapper in age with this device and forgot about it: can it bypass the two key shortcut and assign instead only a single keypress? (eg. reassigning the Ctrl+O to a simple B?)

6 October at 14:45 | Open on framapiaf.org
raghukamath

@davidrevoy Yes it can, I have mapped it to E key. The only issue I found that it is hard to map Ctrl N since input remapper captures this as a shortcut for itself to create a new shortcut entry scheme :) so it drops your exisiting changes when you press Ctrl N and creates new list of entries :P. May be worth filing a bug with input remapper but I did not have time to check it out further.

6 October at 15:10 | Open on social.raghukamath.com
David Revoy

@raghukamath Thank you for the feedback and confirming, I had a vague souvenir input-remapper was indeed capable of this.
I'll retest it and update the blog post, this is a very useful information. 👍

(and haha for Ctrl+N. I had the same issue with running evtest ; the Ctrl+Shift+Z (w because of azerty here) button was triggering the "Close Session" of Konsole here. Impossible to get the MSC scan code of the key without configuring the shortcut of Konsole. 😆)

6 October at 15:34 | Open on framapiaf.org
Carlos Solís
@davidrevoy Talking about open-source firmware, are there any macropads that use QMK? qmk.fm/
6 October at 14:47 | Open on hub.azkware.net
overbyte

@davidrevoy I found using the xppen artist pro 16tp on Ubuntu with wayland and multiple screens to be a crap fest with crashing drivers for the tablet functionality and setting the active area in the software being a pain. The screen came straight up though

6 October at 15:12 | Open on gamepad.club
David Revoy

@overbyte I guess you are using the proprietary driver when you say "crashing drivers"; if you combine that with Wayland and possibly some Snap Ubuntu in the mix I can indeed imagine the crap fest. 🤔

All I can propose is what I wrote about my distro of choice: davidrevoy.com/article1030/deb , and davidrevoy.com/article1004/xpp about how to configure the Artist 16 Pro with only Free/Libre and Open Source Software. Here this mix is really solid and stable.

@overbyte I guess you are using the proprietary driver when you say "crashing drivers"; if you combine that with Wayland and possibly some Snap Ubuntu in the mix I can indeed imagine the crap fest. 🤔

All I can propose is what I wrote about my distro of choice: davidrevoy.com/article1030/deb , and davidrevoy.com/article1004/xpp about how to configure the Artist 16 Pro with only Free/Libre and Open...

6 October at 15:29 | Open on framapiaf.org
Ray Of Sunlight

@davidrevoy Windows users: **Scream and run in fear**

6 October at 16:36 | Open on mastodon.social
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