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Arne Babenhauserheide

@davidrevoy In the context of this: while many of the actions of @mozilla feel annoying (i.e. axing FirefoxOS just before it became widespread in South America) and while it doesn’t look like that if you plot a market share which includes the massively growing number of mobile devices with a bundled browser:

Firefox has been mostly keeping its users since 2017.

draketo.de/software/firefox-us

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Baessando :Ryyca:☭🇧🇷🇺🇳🇵🇸

@ArneBab sure. But that it the bare minimum. The numbers should be increasing, even a just a bit, or they should at least stick better with their principles.

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Arne Babenhauserheide

@pbaesse for the numbers to increase, I see three things as necessary:

- antitrust regulation against bundling browsers on mobile
- having a serious offering on mobile
- supporting the existing users in spreading Firefox.

Reason: the number of desktop computers is decreasing.

@davidrevoy @mozilla

Baessando :Ryyca:☭🇧🇷🇺🇳🇵🇸

@ArneBab

Agreed. But that happen and other important decisions to happen they have to change their governance. The way it's today explains a lot of the bad choices.

@shauna and @ryanleesipes provided goods examples of governance. Look at the nice results of Thunderbird. Amazing.

social.coop/@shauna/1131557006

mastodon.social/@ryanleesipes/

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Arne Babenhauserheide

@pbaesse That sounds plausible.

Though I’m not happy with Thunderbird having broken Pretty Easy Privacy (pEp) just two months after that actually started to work for people who sent me messages.
(that may have been before their time)
@davidrevoy @mozilla @shauna @ryanleesipes

Baessando :Ryyca:☭🇧🇷🇺🇳🇵🇸

@ArneBab Sure, but that is normal. We will probably never agree with every decision, but we should with the most, or more importantly with the direction that the NGO or some foundation are heading to.

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Arne Babenhauserheide

@davidrevoy For the time after 2021 Mozillas Statistics show something worrying again:
data.firefox.com/dashboard/use

(as addition to the graph I plotted)

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kbal

2017 and 2021 it stayed mostly stable at 190 million users

Interesting that they almost managed to stop the decline for a few years there. In 2024 after the recent string of nonsensical decisions it's down to 158 million.

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