Gregory's ServerIt is fantastic that AI companies can freely scrape copyrighted stuff from the Internet, but downloading of `youtube-dl` is illegal in the whole EU, because Hamburg regional court said so .. 🤦♂️
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 @hniemeyer Also, "pipx install yt-dlp" pulls the successor from pypi. Blocking pypi would be massive overblocking.  @brawaru @matus_chochlik In Germany usually dns blocking is used for copy right cases like this. Wow, it seems that the website was really completely seized and taken down.  @hniemeyer @brawaru @matus_chochlik usually yes (see cuii), but the cuii message looks different (colorful, with the cuii logo) @hniemeyer @brawaru @matus_chochlik DNS blocking is sometimes used if the host or owner of the website is located abroad and does not comply with the law. @brawaru @hniemeyer @matus_chochlik looks like hosting service has to comply because of the threat of penalty  @matus_chochlik @Gigoince  @matus_chochlik how does this even work? Are all website bans EU wide? This really really sucks @emaksovalec @matus_chochlik nope they just took the page down internationally, i just VPN hopped around a bit to confirm  @traumaphoenix@chaos.social @emaksovalec@emacs.ch @matus_chochlik@mastodon.online confirmed it from a endpoint in the netherlands
 @matus_chochlik  @tehabe @matus_chochlik zu blöd, dass Browser das bei der Wiedergabe auch tun und dass man den Inspektor öffnen kann, wodurch ein Download prima möglich ist.  @matus_chochlik I didn't hear that'd happened. It just goes to show how clueless the courts & litigators are with regards to how the web works. It's literally just a web browser with a different UI. So if _that's_ illegal then... 🤷♀️  @masukomi @matus_chochlik > "You say your party will ban blockchains...can you tell me what a Merkle tree is?"  @matus_chochlik are you able to use my YouTube downloader https://github.com/niceEli/Simple-YT-Downloader I will say that you do need to compile yourself (it’s c# so you just use visual studio and its easy)  @matus_chochlik Wow. Remember the fines for downloading music back in the early 2000s?    @matus_chochlik@mastodon.online if youre a major company, its profit, if youre an end user, its crime! many such cases  @matus_chochlik @matus_chochlik Indeed... There is a fork that might be a solution ? https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp
@matus_chochlik  https://github.blog/2020-11-16-standing-up-for-developers-youtube-dl-is-back/ the software is not down, only the website; and the whole story is about 3 authors not getting ads evil money  @matus_chochlik you can use alternative front-ends for youtube with convenient download buttons :) Like this one: @mykhaylo thank you, yes I know there are multiple options and alternatives, but that was not the point of the original post :) @matus_chochlik I know, but what makes us free from this kind of crap is having lots of options.  @matus_chochlik of course it's hamburg. it's always hamburg or cologne for these.  @matus_chochlik It's blocking me on every country I try on the VPN, even USA and Australia. Looks like its more like a DNS or ISP block. Oh well. Cut one head... @matus_chochlik ...the court's reasoning being that accessing the direct download URL for a media stream is a circumvention of an effective technical protection 🥴 made-in-germany copyright law combined with made-in-germany technological incompetence  @matus_chochlik will becoming an AI company let me get access to the illegal stuff because i allegedly "train an AI to detect illegal stuff" :blobcatthonking: @matus_chochlik also i am NOT in the EU, wtf, did they just murder the entire site  @gravitos @matus_chochlik in the US, can confirm that it's just straight up Gone  @gravitos@wetdry.world @matus_chochlik@mastodon.online @matus_chochlik I have been using this fork for a while and it works: @matus_chochlik I don't think it's blocked in the EU. Rather, the web host (uberspace.de) is based in Germany, so it falls under German jurisdiction. Absolutely not defending this kind of censorship, I would consider this a flagrant abuse of intellectual property law. But as a jurisdictional question, this seems relatively uncontroversial.  @matus_chochlik@mastodon.online yeah you see your mistake was assuming that normal people have rights @matus_chochlik@mastodon.online Ah, Hamburg, the court known for pulling stuff like this time and time again. It's basically the opposite of Berlin Tiergarten.   @matus_chochlik@mastodon.online while it's down, check this fork out  @matus_chochlik@mastodon.online the github repo is up and running just fine with windows builds ready to download, there are almost 10.000 forks, plus popular ones like yt-dlp that have their own forks, and it's all well available on aur and apt. Good luck blocking that, stinky feds 🤡      @matus_chochlik politics aside, I think that's the first time I see a multilingual variant of the classic webserver error message :o @matus_chochlik I suppose we are to assume the AI companies asked YouTube admin politely for a .zip file of their site. @matus_chochlik@mastodon.online I mean you can just download it from the github page @nemo thanks, as I mentioned in other comments, I know that there are other alternatives to youtube-dl and other options how to obtain it, incl. github, snap, etc. The point was something else. We need to start pushing back on this crap, not keep looking for loopholes :) The thing I wanted it for was to help my kid getting a 5 seconds long sound clip for his school project. Unless I'm terribly mistaken this is well within fair use. @matus_chochlik Oh I'm sorry Sir :) really hadn't seen all those other posts. I totally agree 💯💯💯 :D 💓 I truly despise the current trend and yes we should definetively stand up & do something ✊ :) Btw I don't give a flying f*cktus about copyrights :D @nemo no problem, as an author of a few university textbooks and some opensource SW (both of very questionable quality :P) I don't particularly care for the current implementation of copyright either :) @matus_chochlik hahah you made me smile Sir :D I see. Hope you'll have a wonderfull day today :D 🙏 |
@matus_chochlik good thing that most community dns severs or the international ones do not apply this silly blocking rules 💪