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 Despite the claims that #Telegram never shares any data or metadata, there are relatively clear cases of them having shared metadata with an Indian court and German law enforcement. There are strong indications, as reported by Wired, they might have shared message contents with the Russian government, targeting activists in Russia. By default, Telegram chats do not use end-to-end encrypted mode aka "Secret Chats". End-to-end encryption is also completely unavailable for groups and channels. 24 comments
 @rysiek @simonboggis AFAIK #Durov got arrested because #Germany #MLAT'ed #France for #NetzDG violations and he refused to integrate #Govware #Backdoors in compliance with French Law, which is rather a case if #incompetence by #LEA|s than actual #security. - The only "#encryption" that #Telegram has is using #HTTPS - that's it! @kkarhan it's worse than HTTPS, MTProto broadcasts cleartext a device identifier. @rysiek @simonboggis so it's worse than the shittiest #OMEMO implementation...  @kkarhan @simonboggis @rysiek Mass civil disobedience really should be taking place regarding this. Especially since France *pretends* to have a Right to Silence.
Key Disclosure & Right to Silence are fundamentally incompatible.  Yeah, it is weird how articles about Telegram in mainstream press try to paint it as some kind of trusted privacy service. Has Telegram PR department been briefing press in this way? @FediThing @simonboggis yes. Media is basically parroting Telegram's marketing language without giving it a second thought.  @rysiek @FediThing @simonboggis Plus they have a cult of toxic fans who "correct" anyone who tries to set the record straight...  @dalias @kkarhan @rysiek @FediThing @simonboggis That hasn't been my experience. Signal users who like it also complain about the phone number thing all the time and want it fixed. Rather than lying that it has security properties it doesn't. @dalias @rysiek @FediThing @simonboggis OFC, the comparison isn't fair towards @signalapp , abeit their #Shitcoin #Scam called #MobileCoin and "selected availability" of it disqualifies them too. - It's just unnecessary #bloat and unlike #Monero it's neither available anywhere nor privacy-friendly!  @dalias @kkarhan @rysiek @FediThing @simonboggis I can conccur. I like signal but I will openly say there's improvements to be made. I mean there's even a fork of their client called Molly that provides more features. Possibly quite telling that the Russian government condemned the arrest so strongly. 🤔  @rysiek @FediThing @richlv or maybe he is eager not to fall into Kremlin's hands. Who knows?  @rysiek@mstdn.social |
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@rysiek they are routinely reported as secure/encrypted when they are in the news - I saw several stories repeating this with the news of the arrest in France.