@sertaptap @davidgerard the users definitely did not,...

bri

@sertaptap @davidgerard the users definitely did not, according to their own survey! https://proton.me/blog/2024-proton-survey-results

a bar chart from proton, “what do you want most in proton mail?”
59% wanted ‘simplified e2e encrypted email sending to non-proton users’
29% wanted ‘writing assistant for proofreading, grammar, composing emails’
25% wanted ‘automatic email categorization’
22% wanted ‘external email accounts support’
15% wanted ‘calendly-like ability to share your availability via link’
and 21% ‘other’

Like 19 July at 0:01 | Wall-to-wall | Open on digipres.club

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Ryan Fisher

@brhfl
@sertaptap @davidgerard

Well ... A "writing assistant" is what an LLM is, no?

19 July at 0:46 | Open on infosec.exchange

bri

@wryanfisher @sertaptap @davidgerard yes and only 29% of respondents gave a shit despite the entire survey being geared around it.

19 July at 0:47 | Open on digipres.club

Ryan Fisher

@brhfl
@sertaptap @davidgerard

The two blog posts by the actual ML head at Proton seem a bit more circumspect than the hype.

I thought the post on using LLMs in a privacy-focused design was at least thoughtful and had a lot of interesting information in it.
https://proton.me/blog/how-to-build-privacy-first-ai

The announcement post on Scribe does point out that the whole thing can be run local etc. It also seems likely they are trying to work out the future of the product with some of the more advanced privacy ideas like homomorphic encryption (an idea which still hurts my brain).
https://proton.me/blog/proton-scribe-writing-assistant

@brhfl
@sertaptap @davidgerard

The two blog posts by the actual ML head at Proton seem a bit more circumspect than the hype.

I thought the post on using LLMs in a privacy-focused design was at least thoughtful and had a lot of interesting information in it.
https://proton.me/blog/how-to-build-privacy-first-ai

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19 July at 1:33 | Open on infosec.exchange

bri

@wryanfisher my takeaway was more 'damn that's a lot of resources spent on something less than a third of your customers give a shit about' but w/e. was just here to relay the survey info, i already know i'm not giving them any more of my money.

19 July at 1:42 | Open on digipres.club

Ryan Fisher

@brhfl

I think that's a totally fair reaction.

I feel like the opt-in affirmative action to enable it on a per use basis mitigates a lot of the privacy issues for me, though. For the writing assistant, at least. The LLM is not training itself on your mail corpus I don't think.

19 July at 5:49 | Open on infosec.exchange

Rams Horn Studios

@brhfl @sertaptap @davidgerard

I just submitted a ticket through their mobile app that I will cancel my service with them if they don't remove it.

19 July at 4:20 | Open on peoplemaking.games