@miah And indeed, I can also run my own Mastadon server...

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R.I.Pienaar

@miah And indeed, I can also run my own Mastadon server - but even I dont do that I pay someone to do it.

It's just not a viable answer for someone who uses Slack day to day.

Until we find ways to deal with these super hard to solve problems, these suggestions are largely not useful. Many of us have tried corporate IRC servers and lol, how bad does that go.

Like 20 June at 13:31 | Wall-to-wall | Open on devco.social

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Miah Johnson

@ripienaar We ran our own IRC & ZNC servers at Bank Simple for years. We of course switched to Slack after we got bought because... probably because management wanted to read the private messages of an employee.

20 June at 13:33 | Open on hachyderm.io

R.I.Pienaar

@miah Did all your business users in the company, CEO and all other executives and sales etc, use IRC?

20 June at 13:35 | Open on devco.social

Miah Johnson

@ripienaar Yes, everybody was on irc. We all chatted regularly. The shift happened more than a year after we got bought out.

Similarly everybody was on our github enterprise. I could tag _anybody_ in the company, and we all had access to repos. It wasn't uncommon for somebody from a different department to send in a PR to fix something that was bothering them. I patched some text on our web app while I worked in ops (weird gendering of things that didnt need it).

20 June at 13:38 | Open on hachyderm.io

R.I.Pienaar

@miah Thats pretty amazing, literally first case I ever hear of achieving that

20 June at 13:39 | Open on devco.social

Miah Johnson

@ripienaar For a time Bank Simple was amazing, one of the best jobs of my career... up until our buyout =) We tried to keep things great then, and in many ways we got better, but in so many others we got much much worse.

20 June at 13:41 | Open on hachyderm.io

Serenus

@ripienaar I don’t see why they couldn’t? There are significantly more arcane systems (e.g. SAP) in common use.

20 June at 13:38 | Open on mas.to

R.I.Pienaar

@Serenus The problem usually came in quality of the client apps. Find a good business orientated IRC client, maybe they exist now I hadnt checked in a minute - but they didnt then.

And by business orientated I mean that includes the needs of compliance etc. @miah

20 June at 13:41 | Open on devco.social

Miah Johnson

@ripienaar @Serenus I think most people in "tech" ran a simple command line irc client, while everybody else ran the Mac Colloquy.

We had a standard of "no Windows" on the server network, and after buyout our new "compliance" broke that rule, ripped out our slapd and replaced it with Active Directory.

20 June at 13:43 | Open on hachyderm.io

DisparateBits

@miah Simple was the only bank I ever actually liked. It was an awesome thing to have built. Cool to hear it was on IRC too. I hate Discord and all the closed silos of information.

20 June at 13:45 | Open on infosec.exchange

@ripienaar @miah ircd is just one apt install away. That is MUCH easier and lighter than mastodon.

20 June at 17:29 | Open on chaos.social