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Björn

@mlncn anything that involves threads does sound like it should be an e-mail.
It does sound like we reinvent email for a lot of things for those that don't "like" e-mail.

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Chris Were ⁂🐧🌱☕

@thaodan I you're spot on there. I'm a very happy email user at posteo.de.

Urzl

@thaodan @mlncn People don't know how to triage email. They try to read absolutely everything, get overwhelmed and then stop reading anything at all.

If I get a hundred emails in a day, 80 of them came from a noisy automation reporting status changes and 15 came from some form of corporate chatter. I only *need* to read those last 5.

Those 80 automated emails aren't too much because a) I ignore them and b) I don't immediately delete them so I can still go back for it later as needed.

Björn

@gooba42 @mlncn I think the issue is that most users don't know how to use filters AND that people subscribe to services that just dump everything into their mailboxes by default.

benjamin melançon

@thaodan @gooba42

Yeah there's definitely a lot of benefit to IRC/Slack/whathaveyou that has nothing to do with features compared to e-mail and more to do with "this bucket of things i care about is HERE". But also:

- Zulip lets you move messages between topics, not so possible in e-mail
- someone can join a channel or topic later, in e-mail they'd have to be forwarded the thread
- e-mail takes more attention and discipline to quote only relevant parts, and customs differ by 5+ people.

Björn replied to benjamin

@mlncn @gooba42 Mixing chats with long-form isn't a good idea IMHO.
There should be chat and then if there's long form conversation that looks and acts like a letter there's email or any form
that you think is more modern.

I don't think the medium email has anything to do with keeping etiquette or posting styles. You can always quote more than needed.

Björn replied to Björn

@gooba42 @mlncn
The thing is that Email is standartized, anyone can join a conversation without installing a client that can talk the proprietary protocol of this Zulip.
Also no way to replace an Email client with a webapp.

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