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Kenneth Finnegan

It's here! And it's just as magnificent and adorable as I dreamed! 😍

A two port SATA controller in an mPCIe form factor! 🤓 #xp

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Kenneth Finnegan

The weird part is that it came with this extra little metal plate and some screws... And I was sitting here for a few minutes trying to sus out what in the world this was for.

Cover for the bottom? Spacer? What the heck?

Wouldn't be the first time an ebay purchase comes with bonus random hardware that has nothing to do with the product, but right before I was going to chuck it the fact that two of the holes were threaded stuck out to me.

Kenneth Finnegan

Then I finally turned it the right way and realized it's the most amazing mPCIe accessory I've ever seen.

It's an extension plate! There's two different lengths of mPCIe cards, and some sockets won't have mounting posts for both lengths, so this lets you turn this into a 51mm full size mPCIe card if you need to use it somewhere that doesn't support half size cards! 🤓

warthog9

@kwf you have not played with old mpcie and wifi cards much 😜

Kenneth Finnegan

So unfortunately, it looks like there isn't enough clearance in the T620 case for this card's SATA connector and even a right angle connector.

@warthog9 tried to talk me into replacing the connector on the board with a right angle connector, but I like the idea of just soldering a pigtail onto the mPCIe card, because SATA is literally just two pieces of twinax for transmit and receive!

Ewen McNeill

@kwf TIL.

There’s at least 7 contacts in the SATA connector though, which is rather more than 4. Are the rest just “yeah, we put in a lot of ground connections for signal integrity”? 🤔

Kenneth Finnegan

@ewenmcneill that's absolutely it. Three grounds to help keep the impedance of the two pairs controlled and isolated from each other.

It's extremely common on high speed connectors to weave signal pairs with grounds between them. I.e. go look up the pin out for PCIe slots. pinouts.ru/Slots/pci_express_p

Kenneth Finnegan

@ewenmcneill there's a non-standard convention that vendors like Supermicro uses to optionally inject 5V on one of the three ground pins to power SATADOMs, which are tiny SSDs that hang right off the SATA connector on the motherboard.

Attie Grande

@kwf @ewenmcneill Wait... THAT'S how they're powered?!

Does the motherboard detect a short and not inject power as appropriate, or are these dedicated DOM / non-standard connectors?

Kenneth Finnegan

@attie @ewenmcneill They must have some kind of detect logic on the motherboard, but they're fully functional normal SATA ports.

I think on SuperMicros they're conventionally the one yellow port that has power.

Kenneth Finnegan

Yeah, so as reported online and expected, normal right angle SATA cables aren't even close to low enough to let us put the cover back on the case.

Good sanity check I'm making before doing the cursed is making sure everything works BEFORE I start cutting on it.

That way I can know I'm really the one who killed it when it stops working. 😈

Kenneth Finnegan

The connector is too tall you say?

Well that's fine. Nothing a little hot air and a soldering iron can't fix. #xp

KayEllen

@kwf impressive, much steadier hand than mine!

Kenneth Finnegan

Ok, so back on the test bed, and I can confirm that we STILL haven't killed it.

Kenneth Finnegan

A little dab of silicone, and this part of this cursed project is ready to go...

Kenneth Finnegan

Now that we have a SATA cable, the next thing we need for a hard drive in here is a SATA power cable.

Luck would have it I have a spare SATA power cable laying around from a dead power supply.

And 2.5" SATA hard drives are nice in that despite the 15 pin connector having positions for 3.3V, 5V, and 12V, the only required voltage for 2.5" disks is 5V!

And there's an internal USB port I don't care about RIGHT THERE!

Kenneth Finnegan

✅ SATA data
✅ SATA power

Now we need somewhere to mount the drive. 24 gauge sheet metal is wonderful; it's like the hot glue of the computer modding world.

I don't know if this was the original intention for the standoffs I'm using. It's sure exactly-the-right-size for it...

Kenneth Finnegan replied to Kenneth

The highest density 2.5" hard drive you can get in the thinner 7mm form factor, a rummage through my little bin of tiny computer screws, and I want you to brace yourself for the unholy abomination that is about to grace your screen.

Kenneth Finnegan replied to Kenneth

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Kenneth Finnegan replied to Kenneth

I just.... it's... it's magnificent... 😍

Kenneth Finnegan replied to Kenneth

Kind of a bummer that the HDD activity on the mPCIe card doesn't report out to the activity LED on the front panel.

I feel like further hacks may need to be considered here for that.

Nick 🦇🕸️🖤🖖 replied to Kenneth

@kwf that is truly a work of kludge artistry.

Kenneth Finnegan replied to Nick

@ExplodingLemur You can also get 4TB QVO SSDs in 7mm SFF, but I wasn't real thrilled to drop $250 on an SSD for this tomfoolery.

Nick 🦇🕸️🖤🖖 replied to Kenneth

@kwf a 4TB SSD is down to $250?! Holy moly...

Kenneth Finnegan replied to Nick

@ExplodingLemur I'm paying $110-$160 a piece for these 2TB M.2s I'm playing with.

ducksauz 🦆 replied to Kenneth

@kwf @ExplodingLemur from the eBay listing you posted the other day, it looked like these 2T SSDs are used pulls from other gear, yes?

Ewen McNeill replied to Kenneth

@kwf TBH other than the white silicone, I’d probably accept that as “factory stock” if I just glanced at it. (With a black mechanical blob holding the SATA cable in place, it’d just look like a “chip on board” setup.)

Someone should persuade Chinese factories to make M.2 male to SATA cable (omitting the socket) for this “low profile” use case; there are already far weirder A to B options available from China…. 🤔

Michael K Johnson replied to Kenneth

@kwf Aha, this was the moment I was waiting for...

projectgus

@kwf I don't know if this is the best thing I've ever seen, or the most terrifying because I'm eyeing off all my routers and other weird little computers that can now have a new life as a storage device...

Kenneth Finnegan

@projectgus *long side-eye towards the thin client this is getting installed in*

Yeah... imagine that... weird little computers with new life as storage devices...

Hans

@kwf Do you have a purchase link for that?

Kenneth Finnegan

@hansfbaier I got it from a random eBay seller, but it's available on Amazon for less, actually... amzn.to/3M14jal

alsternerd

@kwf I just thought of throughing one of these into the Turris Omnia Router for RAID.
But there's the same problem with the case, esp. getting the cables out without damaging anything.

murph

@kwf OPSEC on the fingerprints in the photos though. You should change those prints when you get a chance.

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