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Darren

Further to this, as I get older and (hopefully) more wise to the world, one of the things that’s really hit me is how everything has a price. Everything.

In this situation, Apple has decided that it’s worth them giving someone a £150 discount on a new phone in order to guarantee that they’ll make more money selling newer phones.

As someone who never really thinks about economy, it’s amazing to me that people’s brains work that way on an industrial scale.

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@DJDarren this is what capitalism is, it's not just a phone, it's data harvesting.

Darren

@ItsThatDeafGuy Of course, that’s the other thing, isn’t it?

Like, we bought a new TV a couple of weeks back. LG are able to pump out a 60” 4K UHD screen that Argos can sell on finance for £400. So what of our data is LG able to sell in order to subsidise the cost of the screen? And what of my data are Argos able to flog in order to offer me an interest free loan for a year?

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@DJDarren our next TV is probably going to be a high def computer monitor linked to a locked down computer box.

Darren

@ItsThatDeafGuy We pondered that, and I looked about. Trouble is, computer monitors at the price we could go to top out around 30”. Ours is 60”.

We use Apple TV for 99% of our TV use though, so can’t imagine our data is worth all that much to LG.

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@DJDarren fair enough, we have a HD projector if we wish to watch something 'bigger'.

crazyeddie

@ItsThatDeafGuy @DJDarren I was just looking and they are incredibly expensive. An alternative might be to simply not allow the tv to connect to the internet and use your locked down box. This isn't entirely possible with at least Roku TV's as they won't function at all until you log in at least once. My google TV I've never logged in and was working with my PS4 before I had Internet so that should work. Don't know about new LG.

Rob Vincent 🎙️

@DJDarren @ItsThatDeafGuy A lot of the subsidizing is done by the makers of the TV's OS (e.g. Roku) selling a steady stream of ads to direct at you on your home screen, and the "shovelware" smart-TV apps for all sorts of channels and services which come preinstalled/pushed by the TV's app store and stuck in front of you because their makers paid Roku/LG/etc. for the privilege of punching you in the eyes until money comes out.

Darren

@Rob_T_Firefly Which is a massive part of why I use Apple TV. Yes, Apple have their problems (the root of this thread being an enormous one), but save for the ATV+ app, tvOS never shoves ads in my face. @ItsThatDeafGuy

AJ Sadauskas

@DJDarren The Verge did a documentary on this a while ago. I guarantee you will be very angry by the end of it.

Basically, back in the 1980s, there was a company called Sun Remarketing that built a business buying unsold Apple computers, refurbishing then, and supporting them.

They even went so far as to create new operating systems and upgrades for them.

Lots of people couldn't afford the latest Mac, but we're happy to buy last year's model.

Using a range of underhanded legal tactics, Apple deliberately put them out of business, resulting in thousands of working computers being deliberately dumped in a landfill.

The reason was simple: It was more profitable for Apple to dump unsold computers in a landfill and force everyone to pay full price for the latest machines.

Planned obsolescence is very much Apple's business model.

youtu.be/rZjbNWgsDt8?si=63sB-m

#Apple #Environment #RetroComputing #Recycling #Technology #Computers

@DJDarren The Verge did a documentary on this a while ago. I guarantee you will be very angry by the end of it.

Basically, back in the 1980s, there was a company called Sun Remarketing that built a business buying unsold Apple computers, refurbishing then, and supporting them.

They even went so far as to create new operating systems and upgrades for them.

Stu

@ajsadauskas @DJDarren It boggles my mind how this company maintains its squeaky clean image for so many people.

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