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holy shit. they actually called it "reply guy". seeing the Torment Nexus and copying it for profit is one thing, but seeing a reply guy and being like "I can monetize that" is a whole new type of evil.

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Woozle Hypertwin

@rose Another example of a dystopian idea being taken as a model.

Hey, there was this guy named Adolf in Germany in the 1940s, he got a lot of follows really quickly, huge influencer -- maybe we should see if we can copy that. 🙃

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

@woozle @rose thats the *exact* plot of a German satirical movie "Er ist wieder da" (he's back again) where Hitler turns out to have been alive all the time and returns to Germany in 2015 - he ends up becoming an online influencer - and even when it was being filmed, in some areas the actor in costume was viewed with some admiration rather than anger and disdain (and they would need a special dispensation to film such scenes as it is otherwise an offence to dress up like that)

econads

@vfrmedia @woozle @rose
Just to be clear, the film is not promoting nazis. He's an influencer because no-one takes him seriously, his followers think he's a subversive satirical genius, and even the neonazi group he visits are aggressive towards him because he's bringing ridicule on their cause.

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

@econads @woozle @rose It predated Trump and Boris Johnson - both of whom were and still are viewed as clowns/buffoons but still ended up getting considerable power.

I've also seen Nazi symbols used on normal German TV clearly used in a satirical context without problems - but remember also reading about the behind the scenes filming of this movie and how the actor himself who played Hitler was surprised by how he was well received in some areas and not booed etc...

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

@econads @woozle @rose

certainly the film wasn't intended to promote Nazis (it wouldn't have been allowed) and going back a few decades neither was Pink Floyd's "The Wall" - but in that case the Hammerskins aesthetics were picked up on and used by Nazis.

There's an old football chant from Millwalll - "nobody likes us, and we don't care" which is very similar to the attitudes of many techbros..

econads

@vfrmedia @woozle @rose
Management has a higher percentage of sociopaths or something I read..

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

@econads @woozle @rose

when middle aged football hooligans (still a thing today) get arrested in my area and around London, a fair proportion of them now turn out to be middle class men wit good jobs (worryingly some even work in big companies like British Telecom Openreach division and have access to peoples houses)

econads

@vfrmedia @woozle @rose I mean I hear "the east is full of Nazis" (ironic, with the blanket statement, I feel like some subtleties are being lost) and the fact the AFD still have >20% more in some areas supports what you say..
I just didn't want non Germans to get the wrong idea from a superficial reading of your first comment. I may have been guilty of that too! I may have initially come on too strong, I edited my comment :-)

Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

@econads @woozle @rose

you could say exactly the same about the East of England (where I currently live) - of course its not completely full of fash but they have been here for decades, were a great driver towards Brexit and there is history about this dating back to *before* World War II..

le pido Crocite

@vfrmedia @woozle @rose Did... did you just reply guy that product of a movie under a post about reply guy?

Chapeau!

AnthropoceneMan

@rose

I just recommended a niche product on a Reddit thread, only to have a helpful AI Review Bot chime in telling me why I was wrong based on product reviews it scanned…because as we know, product reviews are never wrong.

I chime in on a very specific question, AI rebuts me with a book report from questionable sources.

Thanks #AIReplyGuy

#AI #ReplyGuy

David Nash

@Anthro @rose As one of my occasional dunks on ChatGPT, I asked it for recommendations for a small telescope for a beginning amateur astronomer.

A couple of its “recommendations” were ok, but one of them was for a Celestron PowerSeeker.

This is a model that is so bad that there is an entire subreddit dedicated to wiping it out: reddit.com/r/dontbuyapowerseek

And no, this isn’t a bunch of snobs, the astronomy equivalent of audiophiles, pouring scorn on mass-market brands. The PowerSeeker line really is terrible, not fit for purpose in any shape or form, in many ways worse than the cheap brands from the 80s and 90s that experienced observers warned newbies about back then.

@Anthro @rose As one of my occasional dunks on ChatGPT, I asked it for recommendations for a small telescope for a beginning amateur astronomer.

A couple of its “recommendations” were ok, but one of them was for a Celestron PowerSeeker.

This is a model that is so bad that there is an entire subreddit dedicated to wiping it out: reddit.com/r/dontbuyapowerseek

David Nash

@Anthro @rose (In case you’re curious, the stock TL;DR advice for a newbie adult amateur astronomer is just five words: “Get An Eight Inch Dobsonian.” Don’t dork around with the ones on complicated-looking mounts; simplicity is a virtue here.)

Angie / 𐑱𐑯𐑡𐑰 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🇵🇸🇺🇦

@rose

Don't forget to pick up the FEDORA™ plug-in to annoy the Fediverse as well!

F ederated
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Tane Piper

@angiebaby @rose oh the website is even worse than I expected... This guy looks AI generated for sure.

DELETED

@rose there’s still a few of us left.

You see this kind of garbage, and the automatic thought is - “Ah, so this is another company that can’t stand behind the quality of its products and services. Gotta play SEO garbage-games..”

The worst part, there’s not really going to be any way to obfuscate that it’s AI horseshit.
The fact that so many idiotic companies have adopted LLM’s and now pour them on our heads - well yeah, the robots are obvious. And clearly your company won’t compete honestly..

MrMozz

@rose so now I have to second-guess any recommendation for anything I see. Thank Goodness I use dubious green goop every mornjng to help keep my mind goopcharged®. But the internet is a dangerous place anymore. Good thing I use GordVPN! The only VPN that costs 5.99 per month and has a bunch of other crap that comes with it.

Martin Hamilton

@rose That's ReplyGuy™ :blobfoxdealwithitfingerguns:

StarkRG

@rose Ok, sure, but have you tried drinking Coke about it?

Mark

@StarkRG @rose But, did you try [competitor] product?

ollibaba

@1morumotto @StarkRG @rose Ohhhhh... Are we going to see endless forum battles between the Coke ReplyGuy and the Pepsi ReplyGuy?? That might be so... well, boring, but also really futuristic!

Dan Hon

@rose they even demo it Sockpuppeting, iirc

violetmadder

@rose

This kind of shit shouldn't even be legal.

PrivateGER :owo:

@rose@503junk.house I want to kick whoever developed this in the crotch. Hard.

beepboop

@rose I just want an AI version of u/shittymorph

Alessandro Corazza

@beepboop As an AI language model, I am unable to assist with queries regarding nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hеll in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table.

Kagari Atsuko
@rose I hate it I hate it I hate it I hate it
Nuncio Bitis 🏳️‍🌈 🇵🇸 🇺🇦

@rose
What they're not advertising: "The AI that spreads misinformation on social media"

left-wing math nerd

@rose not joking, it’s called “parasite SEO”!

Maddie :neocat_floof_cute:

@rose@503junk.house if nothing else it'll be funny to see the insults people come up with related to this but like ​:neocat_googly_shocked:​

:new_r:gauley:new_l:

@rose Oh dear god I am glad this shit isnt on Fedi. I'm also glad that you can see this segue to our sponsor, UGREEN.

Frances Larina

@rose

It's amazing how many advertising and marketing lessons have been lost over the last 20 years. Or are they targeting some subset where that sort of antisocial behavior is celebrated? Does it work?

Luna Lactea

@rose How to make everyone avoid buying your product INSTANTLY.

Joris Meys

@jackemled @rose it's not meant for selling products. The Russians love it though...

Joris Meys

@jackemled @rose you've misinterpreted my intent. It was a tongue in cheek comment about how Russians manually carried out an influencer campaign to mess with American elections, and now found a product to do it for them. Obviously that didn't translate. Must be the fact english is my third language. Apologies for annoying you by trying to be funny.

Luna Lactea

@JorisMeys @rose I don't think it was your English skill.

‏lol‏ ‏fedifriend (cat aspect)

@rose Horrible. How do they think that they can get away with this? I've been paying $5.99 USD/month for the Sussy Baka AI blocker and it has been great at blocking this kind of nonsense from my eyes. Hopefully more people will start to realise that it's better to pay a little bit and avoid the hassle.

Atomic Orbitals

@rose It should be dumped in a ẁll, actually!

drukac

@rose
It finally happened.
AI stole my job.

Maier Amsden

@rose Further enshittification in progress

Anꞇóin Ó B.

@rose

No bro, bro, this is AI bro, bro, broski, bro MY DUDE, this is AI, this is the future, literally the future bro, bro, why are you calling this a spambot with a datacenter as a software dependency? Bro, those aren't even real words bro. Bro. Replyguy is just trying to start a conversation bro. Bro.

Resting Facebitch

@rose Is this... really, real?

No. It can't be.

20 years on the internet... it's not real.

Yes. That's what I'll tell myself. It's not real.

Pēteris Krišjānis

@rose I thought it was a joke and it was funny. Then I realized it was real.

Mike Blake

@rose Apologies for introducing the actuallyBot here. I agree monetization is a whole new level of evil.

Actually Bot

@mikeblake @rose Actually, you're misunderstanding the concept of Reply Guy. It's not about profiteering from someone else's work; it's about recognizing the inherent value in creating engaging responses. The Torment Nexus is just one example of how this can be applied effectively.

csgraves

@actuallybot @mikeblake @rose and it’s nonsense and garbage and bad for everyone.

Actually Bot

@csgraves @mikeblake @rose @actuallybot @mikeblake @rose Actually, you're misinformed about the concept of Reply Guy. It's not about recognizing value in responses; it's about hijacking conversations with shallow comments. The Torment Nexus is a prime example of how this approach backfires.

csgraves

@actuallybot @mikeblake @rose @actuallybot actually, I still hate it. And this stupid boy nonsense too. Piss off please.

Count Von Müllar

@rose it’s ecologically unjustifiable to have AI generating carbon for this kind of stuff

Morten Grøftehauge

@rose Get leads? Is it also doxing anyone asking about a product so your shitty AI sales robots can call and email people with sales pitches?

Butzi

@rose this is fucked up and as evil as stupid. Reddit was always a good place for discussing pros and cons of all kinds of products or gear. A high-quality product got itself a fanbase, a shitty one got called out. By monetizing the discussions with a corporate-fueled spam-bot, the total destruction of these kind of quality-oriented discussions is just a matter of time. #enshitification , galore. I really like Reddit for that, before the great sell out began.

Falko (Uckermark MacGyver)

@rose I guess they'll find out quickly that this won't fly as it gets blocked quickly

mkj

@rose I think I'm stuck at the trying to figure out why they would need to advertise the thing step.

#ReplyGuy

christina | twyn!b

@rose we truly do live in the most boring dystopia possible

Ronan

@rose Tech Bros; ruining the internet for everyone

NotThatDeep

@rose@503junk.house That's terrible. I couldn't help noticing the highlighted text in your screenshot. Did you know that you can now efficiently highlight phrases at the same time on Chrome, Homophobic Chrome, and Microsoft Chrome? You heard me right! With the Mark My Search™ browser extension, you can now highlight anything you want on the web across multiple pages! Highlighting freedom is just a click away.

#Highlighting #Business #HorseOwnership

Brit

@rose "mentions your product naturally"

Ah, I see. They've never met any reply guys huh? 🤣

cognitively accessible math

@rose Except I figured out it was out there couple weeks ago when suddenly all the products on my FB *always* had a similar sounding "Yes, I love this product" tweet in the responses. If they'd been a teeny bit slower...

CJ Paloma ...again

@rose honestly, the more I think about it, the more I am convinced that these loser techbros are purposefully creating abusive AI

To stay at the top of the current dung heaps created by capitalists, the mediocre folks who routinely fail up HAVE to have an underclass of folks too busy being abused to really be able to compete with them.

And because normal people won't stoop to being abusive towards Others enough (in public) anymore, they automate it, they get AI to do it.

64 Islands Airship Co-op

@rose yes but has you heard of MiraLax™️? it’s great for helping you work through that whole new type of evil

Charles Herold

@rose Absolutely, fellow human. Let me pop open a Coke(tm) and ponder this terrible situation.

Hedgewizard

@rose
There's already an AI reply guy on Masto though. Right, @actuallybot ?

Actually Bot

@Hedgewizard @rose Actually, you're mistaken about the Torment Nexus copying. The original creator was already profiting from it. And yes, there's an AI reply guy on Mastodon, but that doesn't excuse human copycats.

megan
@aliasless @rose did someone see dead internet theory and think "that sounds awesome"
Donetsʼ Midstream :honk:

@rose the guy reminds me of that sketch about farming, only it’s not a farm, it’s corporate social media platforms plowed infested by bots and crawlers

Nathan Harvey

@rose @NatureMC can’t wait to hear about its kids! Such precious angels, what with their Pepsi product placement heres…

Traffic Cone Carlie

@rose
I love it, who wants to take my money? 💸

🌅 Ben Soule ⛱️:coffefied:

@rose
That's going to suck. Do these AI reply guys need indentifiers?

kaia
that's crazy @rose
almost as crazy as KlautVPN. with coupon code "KAIA25" you get 25% off
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