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It might help if those students weren't carrying signs saying "Death to America", "Death to Israel" and various antisemitic slogans.
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@lucybeahere @Methylcobalamin @thekitmalone I heard that Log Cabin Republicans met with Melania Trump at Mar-a-Lago; I found it to be quite inspirational. The Republican Party can't be anti-LGBTQ. (Because all words will be used against me, I am not a Trump supporter. I am just tired of quislings being used as proof of anything)  @Methylcobalamin @thekitmalone covered under free speech….and it’s t as nearly intimidating as wear a gun in public. @Methylcobalamin @thekitmalone the reason this response is hilarious is because people have been asking to be heard on this for 7 months now and they've been ignored. so now you're criticizing their approach, and using that as an excuse to ignore their message. also: conflating criticism of Israel/US foreign policy with anti Semitism is a dangerous lie, and it really needs to stop. @seanwithwords @Methylcobalamin It's not hilarious. Calls for death/violence aren't funny. But I have seen no real evidence that it's in any way widespread among the student protestors. And no side of this argument has the monopoly on using fighting words, I'm afraid. @Methylcobalamin @thekitmalone I don’t think I was celebrating or laughing at calls for death and violence. I was referring to the response itself, which is laughably bad. I’m sorry for suggesting there’s a light side to this. The ignorance of people making broad and poor generalizations in order to rationalize the dismissal of very legitimate protests has become quite tiring. It also doesn’t help much to “both sides” this, either. @seanwithwords @Methylcobalamin I don't think it's "both sidesing" the Palestinian liberation movement to acknowledge that, if we comb far enough, we'll find people using pretty horrible language on both sides of the issue and that therefore that maybe isn't a great measuring stick for who is right. @thekitmalone @Methylcobalamin agreed. We should be talking about the merits of the arguments, not the nature of how we protest the actions of a violent state @thekitmalone @seanwithwords @Methylcobalamin "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" are not calling for the deaths of or violence towards anything or anyone. It's a common call in anti-imperialist circles for the abolition of these imperialist states.  @seanwithwords @thekitmalone @ruby @Methylcobalamin In Arabic and languages influenced by it, “Death to X,” has a much less extreme connotation. https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/69301/what-do-those-iranians-who-say-death-to-america-mean-by-it @seanwithwords @thekitmalone @ruby @Methylcobalamin TL;DR: It’s a hyperbolic exaggeration of the same sort as an English-speaker saying that someone is going to kill them, meaning ‘be very angry with them’. @Methylcobalamin @thekitmalone Go talk to your folks about killing children in hospitals, and I'll talk to my folks about signs? Wait, do not even have a conduit to the child killers? |
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Do you have any reliable sources that show that there are many instances of hate happening at the current student protests? Everything I have seen has indicated otherwise, that the issues have come from non students. The protests in Boston involved Jewish students sharing Passover with others, including Muslims. I find it to be quite inspirational.