|
Top-level
@seanwithwords @Methylcobalamin It's not hilarious. Calls for death/violence aren't funny. But I have seen no real evidence that it's in any way widespread among the student protestors. And no side of this argument has the monopoly on using fighting words, I'm afraid. 7 comments
@seanwithwords @Methylcobalamin I don't think it's "both sidesing" the Palestinian liberation movement to acknowledge that, if we comb far enough, we'll find people using pretty horrible language on both sides of the issue and that therefore that maybe isn't a great measuring stick for who is right. @thekitmalone @Methylcobalamin agreed. We should be talking about the merits of the arguments, not the nature of how we protest the actions of a violent state @thekitmalone @seanwithwords @Methylcobalamin "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" are not calling for the deaths of or violence towards anything or anyone. It's a common call in anti-imperialist circles for the abolition of these imperialist states.  @seanwithwords @thekitmalone @ruby @Methylcobalamin In Arabic and languages influenced by it, “Death to X,” has a much less extreme connotation. https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/69301/what-do-those-iranians-who-say-death-to-america-mean-by-it @seanwithwords @thekitmalone @ruby @Methylcobalamin TL;DR: It’s a hyperbolic exaggeration of the same sort as an English-speaker saying that someone is going to kill them, meaning ‘be very angry with them’. |
Gregory's Server
@Methylcobalamin @thekitmalone I don’t think I was celebrating or laughing at calls for death and violence. I was referring to the response itself, which is laughably bad.
I’m sorry for suggesting there’s a light side to this. The ignorance of people making broad and poor generalizations in order to rationalize the dismissal of very legitimate protests has become quite tiring.
It also doesn’t help much to “both sides” this, either.