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European Commission

Our commitment to the fediverse is here to stay.

We are working on a solution to ensure our continued presence on your feeds, taking full advantage of Mastodon's identity portability.

And we are even growing the team behind our Mastodon presence, increasing efforts to engage with your comments on our posts.

We are fully committed to being a real part of the conversation in the fediverse.

Interested in our next steps? Follow us as we take on this new chapter.

122 comments
Cr0ydon

@EU_Commission You don't seem to have posted the problem before, so what is it that requires a solution?

nexus II

@croydon
They can't seem to find anyone willing to maintain a server.

Flo

@vasto @croydon they can't seem to find anyone willing to pay for maintaining a single server. Priorities.

Cr0ydon

@desperadoduck @vasto How many Mastodon servers can we finance if we stop the EU Parliament from moving between Strasbourg and Brussels?

Sorry, could absolutely not resist ๐Ÿ˜‚

uqlel

@desperadoduck @vasto @croydon man even an oracle free vps can handle mastodon server for few users

Carl Schwan :kde:

@croydon @EU_Commission They posted about the problem before :/ There was at least a presentation about the struggle of the instance at the Freedom Not Fear conference last year by some of the people involved in this effort.

BUND-SB

@EU_Commission so to which instance will you migrate ? are you setting-up a New one with eu-design and consistance with other eu-channel-domains ?

Darnell Clayton :verified:

@EU_Commission It seems as if you are migrating from #Mastodon towards another platform.

Which #Fediverse option are you consideringโ€ฝ #WordPress with the #ActivityPub plugin enabledโ€ฝ

Depending on the host, that would be a less expensive option.

Boud

@darnell

This is a side issue, but when there's a conversation between a human and a media team of humans, it's interesting to at least get some feeling for who might be "hiding" in the team. In the case of @EU_Commission my guess is the people here tagged 'social media':

commission.europa.eu/about-eur

are the team behind the @. The profile itself says nothing specific about who manages the messages, how their content is decided (e.g. on an internal wiki, on a cryptpad, or on a git repository).

@darnell

This is a side issue, but when there's a conversation between a human and a media team of humans, it's interesting to at least get some feeling for who might be "hiding" in the team. In the case of @EU_Commission my guess is the people here tagged 'social media':

commission.europa.eu/about-eur

AskPippa๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

@boud Many us don't know who many of the various Mastodon admins are. So... With institutional organizations, social media posts are generally approved by a committee.

Benjamin Balder Bach

@darnell @EU_Commission the update contains an illustration with a heart and a Mastodon logo, so it seems very obvious what the intention is ๐Ÿ˜‰๏ธ

Looking forward to seeing the next step here, it's very promising!

Schmaker

@EU_Commission
First of all - thanks, for being here

Second - Fediverse is not Mastodon so I'm looking forward to see you at least on Peertube

Third - we are big and we definitely should invest in open tech to replace asshole-owned social networks. And I can imagine Fediverse devs could use a coin or two or helping hand paid by EU

Robert "Szkodnix"

@EU_Commission@social.network.europa.eu We are still confused after your previous announcement from here: https://www.edps.europa.eu/press-publications/press-news/press-releases/2024/edps-decentralised-social-media-pilot-end-successful-story_en

Would you be able to share more information soon enough? We appreciate our right to be informed about all things related to EU and not being tracked by big tech. Your previous announcement brought a lot of concerns about your presence on Fediverse and we believe that without your comment soon enough it might be discouraging for more public services considering switching to Fediverse.

Could you please address this soon?

@EU_Commission@social.network.europa.eu We are still confused after your previous announcement from here: https://www.edps.europa.eu/press-publications/press-news/press-releases/2024/edps-decentralised-social-media-pilot-end-successful-story_en

Would you be able to share more information soon enough? We appreciate our right to be informed about all things related to EU and not being tracked by big tech. Your previous announcement brought a lot of concerns about your presence on Fediverse and we believe...

FediThing ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ

@rysiek @EU_Commission

Oooh, interesting option! They could move their existing accounts to a third party server... not as great as their own server obviously, but much better than just deleting the accounts.

And it means if they bring the server back at some point they can move the accounts back there. The social graph would be preserved.

Maxi 10x ๐Ÿ’‰

@FediThing @rysiek @EU_Commission But not their toots and their discussions! The EU instance needs to be preserved, this is beyond ridiculous!

marcelcosta

@FediThing @frumble @rysiek @EU_Commission Accounts from institutions like EU Commission should be in at least public servers. It would be hard to understand to expose those to moderation and maintenance from a private and personal administrator. Thatโ€™s precisely the situation with privative social network tools such as X, threads and so on, although in that case at least you can argue that is necessary for the people networkโ€ฆ

Carlos Solรญs
@frumble @rysiek @FediThing @EU_Commission I'm astonished at the fact that most #ActivityPub platforms allow exporting your posts, but practically none allow importing them back.
Nodami

@frumble @FediThing @rysiek @EU_Commission I wonder, which national library is preserving the toots? ๐Ÿค” I remember projects to preserve Twitter (Padicat, from National Catalan Library, among others) but I am not aware of a similar project for the fediverse. Do you know @EU_Commission ?

Maxi 10x ๐Ÿ’‰

@Nodami @FediThing @rysiek Donโ€™t give them ideas, the only reasonable choice is to preserve the current instance!

Garret :bongoCat:

@EU_Commission

I live in the United States, and this is cool to see.

I hope our government figures out they donโ€™t have to rely on private social media companies if they donโ€™t want to.

Cafรฉ-Junkie

@EU_Commission
DE:
Wรคre schon, wenn diese Bekenntnis zu dezentralen Diensten und Open-Source auch in anderen Bereichen Eingang finden wรผrde, der Bรผro-IT รถffentlicher Institutionen insbesondere!
EN:
It would be great if this commitment to decentralized services and open source would also find its way into other areas, especially the office IT of public institutions!
#ITSouverรคnitรคt #foss #opensource #ITSovereignty

raphael

@CafeJunkie bleibt zu hoffen, dass schleswig-holstein sein vorhaben kompetent umsetzt. wenns erstmal einer gut gemacht hatโ€ฆ

ghose โ‚ ๐Ÿ‘ฃ

@EU_Commission we appreciate your work and effort wihh these accounts and channels.

I wish you can find a solution

Thank you

FediThing ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ

@ChrisWere @EU_Commission

"taking full advantage of Mastodon's identity portability."

Guessing they're just going to move their accounts to another Masto server?

Maybe they have the budget for running the accounts themselves but not for the server? (But would be weird if so as server costs are pretty minimal?)

FiXato

@ChrisWere being cryptic is second nature to politicians ๐Ÿ˜‚
@EU_Commission

Alb_

@EU_Commission

So you've really got a team working full-time just on mastodon/fediverse post writing.

Then stop hiring since some of them are overload!

Your posts are interesting though.

Corinna Balkow

@EU_Commission How does your announcement connect with these articles about EU institutions run by the European Date Protection Supervisor to be shut down in May?

netzpolitik.org/2024/mastodon-

Benjamin Balder Bach

@coba @EU_Commission it's a direct response to an EDPS public announcement from earlier today, which indicated that the project with official EU Fediverse servers would end: edps.europa.eu/press-publicati

It seems to indicate that the commission will take over. Which makes sense - the project ends with a huge success, so the EU institutions should naturally want to continue the good development.

@coba @EU_Commission it's a direct response to an EDPS public announcement from earlier today, which indicated that the project with official EU Fediverse servers would end: edps.europa.eu/press-publicati

MeowcaTheoRange

@EU_Commission i love how โ€œWe are working on a solution to ensure our continued presence on your feeds, taking full advantage of Mastodonโ€™s identity portability.โ€ can also mean โ€œif you block/mute us we will move to somewhere you can see usโ€ though i donโ€™t know what the intended meaning is in this post

Klaudia (aka jinxx)

@EU_Commission Thank goodness! And yes, please stay here in the democratic part of social nets!

Saupreiss #Prรคparat500

@EU_Commission

Iโ€˜m yet to be convinced that your full commitment is a good thing; especially when it comes down to social media.

But greetings to Zensursula (โ€œwhat again is a browser?โ€).

exiltoaster :breadified:

@EU_Commission Please create channels for all languages of the European Union. Pick up people directly instead of just posting in English.

kฮ”

@exiltoaster @EU_Commission I agree! And also as a native English speaker who is only good at basic German I would point out that English is no longer a major language within the EU and French or Spanish should be adopted as the main output when speaking globally. Better yet, Esperanto! Then EU citizens need only learn one other simple language to speak to every other citizen of EU member states. ๐Ÿ˜

Franky ๐Ÿ˜

@exiltoaster
@EU_Commission

Why? Let everyone speak in their own language. #DeepL works perfectly. Here, we integrated this Translator into #SubwayTooter and so we only need to click once to read your toot in our native language. The Translator automatically detects your language. Easy.

exiltoaster :breadified:

@Slufferbeiste I translated your text. And then translate it back into English. works really great.
Itโ€™s a really good solution, not.

translate post:
Why? Let everyone speak in their own language. #Deep work.

Here we have this translator in #Subway and so we only have to click once to read your toast into our native language. The translator automatically recognizes your language. Very calmly.
@EU_Commission

Xerz! :blobcathearttrans:

@EU_Commission shame the hosting will no longer be owned by the EU, and that conversations and history will be lost in the process

glad you still care, at least

guetto ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿ’ป ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ

@EU_Commission

No money to pay a cloud instance?
Don't you already have an IT service for your daily work?

DELETED

@EU_Commission

Stop stealing land from Greenland, Norway and Sweden's #indigenous communities.

Veza85UE

@ecotejados @EU_Commission
Ya, porque la Comisiรณn tiene poderes y autoridad para imponer el huso horario a un estado miembro. #WTFistheCouncil

Matv1

@EU_Commission Awsum news! you had us worried for a bit.

radioactivestardust

@EU_Commission You are awesome โ™ก i am very thankful for all the provided information!

Simon Wood

@EU_Commission Hope that whatever platform software you choose, you have your own instance, setting the lead for other governmentsโ€™ social presence.

Boud

@EU_Commission Please clarify that by "Fediverse" your team means the Fediverse itself and that you do *not* mean Meta/FB's "Threads".

It is unacceptable for the EU Commission to provide support for Meta/FB's role in hate speech [1] [2], its role in the #RohingyaGenocide [3][4] and its role in the #TigrayGenocide [5][6].

Silmathoron โ‚

@boud is there already account portability for threads.net?
I thought briefly "I hope they are not considering this", but then thought that it was most probably not possible anyway at the moment...
I hope I'm not wrong, as this would be beyond heartbreaking.
@EU_Commission

Jey is enjoying this old ๐Ÿ˜

@EU_Commission
It would be cool to link to other official profiles of European countries/communities, if there is any (I'm not aware of any)

voltar13

@EU_Commission
Please don't tell me this is a prelude for a total move to threads...

Joe Ortiz

@voltar13 @EU_Commission I feel that's what they'll be doing.

Hope I'm wrong.

Unai

@EU_Commission this is a good source of EU news for me, thank you for working on keeping it going ๐Ÿซฐ

DELETED

@EU_Commission You shoyld stop using this facists media called X

Alberto Cottica

@EU_Commission you made the right choice. Looking forward to your next move.

maarten brouwers

@xs4me2 @EU_Commission it is good that they will move their account to some other server, but a government body should ideally be run at a government run server, not some third party. What funds are needed to make social.network.europa.eu continue to work? All this talk about independence becomes and then thisโ€ฆ

Central Illumination Agency

@EU_Commission This is a heartening promise.

I hope that the final setup will be a server run by one of the EU institutions, with accounts for all the different bodies and - why not - staff of the EU organs.

Silmathoron โ‚

@EU_Commission I'm glad to hear that!

I must say, though, that I'm having a hard time trying to make this announcement consistent with the one from @EDPS : they mentioned an issue keeping the server and service at the "high standards that EUIs and our users deserve" but you talk about moving somewhere else so I'm kind of wondering how a 3rd party could meet these standards...

Thomas (aka Papa Dragon) - Streams
L'expรฉrience des instances Mastodon et Peertube de la des instances europรฉennes est un succรจs, et du coup... les deux vont fermer le 18 mai prochain.

Curieux.
Etua

@EU_Commission That's nothing else than a clear downgrade.
Going from most important:
1. Closed-registration server in europa.eu domain was a better guarantee of profile authenticity than looking for the green bars in profiles on some random public instances. We're talking about one of the biggest orgs in the world.
2. Theses profiles will be dependent on third-party admins for moderation, accessibility etc.
3. I don't believe every profile will move. I suspect we'll loose some in the process.

lertsenem

@EU_Commission The fact that you'd have to close your dedicated instance is pretty sad though.

KarlE

@EU_Commission instead of staging a technology example, which is known to work in general but have some flaws, wouldn't it be most straightforward to just continue operation of the existing and established servers?

Nasos Alaiskas
That explanation was huge. ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ™
william.maggos

@EU_Commission @briankrebs

the cool kids are using fedi but then #SocialWeb. thanks for sticking around.

Olivier Borel

@EU_Commission c'es super cool in en val le coup Vivaldi et formidable et sais du sรฉrieux sais rรฉseaux sociaux aussi vraiment

propapanda :verified:

@EU_Commission if you need to hire someone to run your instance, hmu

Bart Knubben

@EU_Commission
Good to read that you are committed! I just hope you don't let the current EU Mastodon instance disappear and switch to another generic one. That would be a huge setback for your reliability and recognisability. Besides, old posts don't move with you and all other EU organisations also need to find a new home in the #fediverse. So can you make sure the current EU instance keeps spinning? Seems like a no-brainer although you might have to take some bureaucratic hurdlesโ€ฆ

Chris Who

@EU_Commission Yay EU! Nice to have you here.

:ablobcatrave:
:blobcatcaramelldansen:
:ablobcatrave:

cwtshycwtsh

@EU_Commission Piss off to Threads or whatever.

๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ”ฅ

Jerry ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช

@EU_Commission @cwtshycwtsh

Could you piss off to Xitter? Your attitude is what many people were trying to avoid here.

Ton Zijlstra

@EU_Commission Hopefully you will do so on one of your own domains. And invite the other EU institutions and agencies to do so too. Having your own domain (rather than using mastodon.social or twitter.com) means we all can be certain that you are who you say you are. Organisations should run their own instances, or use their websites to also share to ActivityPub. My organisation does, my website does. Let the EC lead by example!

Fitik

@EU_Commission Thank you so much, open source is the way to go

Osma A

@EU_Commission
You do know the monthly costs of running a single Mastodon server are a fraction of the handwaving implied by this single post, do you?

Jeremiah Lee

@EU_Commission Better than identity portability would be finding a way to keep your current server operating for you and all the other official EU accounts using it.

Chewie

@Wtebbens @EU_Commission @EDPS

It would be good it they actually said what they would be doing next.
It sounds like they've had a year to plan for it ๐Ÿ˜•

KMJ ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡น

@EU_Commission

You should do a press release immediately to not shutdown the servers, as posted by @EDPS in may and furthermore you should commit to a long time financing the servers, also after the elections. Otherwise all will think you post a commitment now and forget about it after the election.

Be sure there are lot of people out there watching you, handling decentralized open source projects and your response to edps.europa.eu/press-publicati .

EU citizens are interested in your decision

@EU_Commission

You should do a press release immediately to not shutdown the servers, as posted by @EDPS in may and furthermore you should commit to a long time financing the servers, also after the elections. Otherwise all will think you post a commitment now and forget about it after the election.

Elena. (she/ her)

@EU_Commission@social.network.europa.eu You need to keep your own server!! How is this even a problem? People are loosing trust in the EU and this is only one more reason for them. It's outrageous that the EU (!!) is not able to keep its own Fedi server running and maintained.

Scammo

@EU_Commission please contiue your usage of this server. I think it would also be really interesting if you could conside to post simultanously in different language. Thanks!

Toni Aittoniemi

@EU_Commission Go Europe Go!

Commitment to open systems can only be shown. Talk is cheap. ๐Ÿซก

Arne Brasseur

@EU_Commission great to see! just go easy on the pie charts

luki

@EU_Commission There is a lot of work waiting for us humans. But what is considered as work is highly up to us humans.

Mensch, Marina

@EU_Commission IMHO EU and it's many offices should have their own server(s). Not just instances. It would fulfill the dream of independence & solidarity & open source regarding social media in one move.

Jan Wildeboer ๐Ÿ˜ท:krulorange:

@EU_Commission FTR - an account on threads.net is NOT a solution, IMHO. The better solution is to use a minimal part of the money you spend on blockchain projects to keep the instance you are on alive. ;)

Sir Toootenstein

@EU_Commission this is absolutely bad. There's so much money wasted every day within the European Parliament. Maintaining a Mastodon server should be peanuts. Damnit!

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