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Doctor Popular

I can’t tell you how happy I am to get texts like these from friends. I’m so optimistic about the future of the #fediverse and always excited to talk about it.

The fediverse is still a tricky concept to explain though. I’d love to hear how you like to describe this *gestures wildly at ActivityPub/Federation/Mastodon/Threads/AT Protocol/PeerTube* to a friend.

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A* Ulven

@docpop@mastodon.social inb4 it's just like email

(It is nothing like email)

Martin Grider

@docpop I usually say the fediverse is built on ActivityPub, an "open standard" for social media. (Then I might go into how html is the technology that drives the web, but all the different browsers implement various "open standards" for rendering html, or websites would look different between Firefox, Chrome, and Safari.) Mastodon is just one open source implementation of this standard, but there are lots of others! And lots of websites host mastodon, just like word press.

Peter Butler

@docpop the fediverse is a community of independent internet spaces running similar software so that they can interact with each other

wendinaokland

@docpop Nerdy twitter-ish place, a touch janky, plenty of interesting people & things to fill your timeline (and time!) with.

Stefan Bohacek

@docpop I just like to compare it to email. It lets you connect with anyone regardless of their email address/username.

jointhefediverse.net

But the best part about it is that it lets you join and create communities that can be as independent or as interconnected as you want.

Hannu Ikonen

@docpop Fediverse is people power, hopefully.

Sampath Pāṇini ®

@docpop
I like to hit ‘em with this, and gauge the reaction to all. the. words.

It’s very instructive.

inaniludibrio.com/2024/02/13/m

AnneTheWriter

@docpop

I try to avoid technical explanations. Those tend to put people off & scare them away.

Coming from the publishing industry, I use the analogy of how publishing used to be controlled by big corporations, but now self publishing has made it possible for anyone to control their own work. In doing so, publishing has become much more democratic.

Similarly, the #Fediverse has made social media much more democratic, also.

"Coming from corporate social medias like Twitter and Facebook, it’s often hard to understand the power of the Ordinary Person here in the Fediverse. Anyone–and I mean ANYONE–can set up their own instance here. Non-tech-savvy admins have proudly announced they’ve done so."

By the very nature of the lack of ads on #Mastodon, the experience here is more positive. My feed is not stacked with ads & posts that don't interest me. Plus:

#NoAds = No algorithm = No trolls & less divisivion

#Federation also makes for better admins.

annethewriter33.wordpress.com/

@docpop

I try to avoid technical explanations. Those tend to put people off & scare them away.

Coming from the publishing industry, I use the analogy of how publishing used to be controlled by big corporations, but now self publishing has made it possible for anyone to control their own work. In doing so, publishing has become much more democratic.

Syn-ACK, Pentagenerian :facepalm:

@docpop @AnneTheWriter1 I explain it like neighborhoods. Each instance is a neighborhood community, and your "home" instance is any neighborhood in which you have a residence (or your favorite one if you have multiple domiciles, if you like).

Just like cities contain many communities consisting of anything from apartments (i.e. Mastodon) to subdivisions (say, Akkoma) and with varying population densities (e.g. large instances might be like Manhattan, smaller instances might be like a small town), so too do many instances of various types of living spaces use the same "mail" service to communicate. And of course there are libraries (bookwyrm) and video stores (peertube).

ActivityPub is like the mail that allows you to communicate with other neighborhoods whether you live there or not, and you can also "return to sender" if you need to.

The local timelines are like your small neighborhood bulletin boards, the home timeline is like the city newspaper, and the federated timeline is like a firehose into the collective stream of consciousness of the entire fediverse.

@docpop @AnneTheWriter1 I explain it like neighborhoods. Each instance is a neighborhood community, and your "home" instance is any neighborhood in which you have a residence (or your favorite one if you have multiple domiciles, if you like).

Just like cities contain many communities consisting of anything from apartments (i.e. Mastodon) to subdivisions (say, Akkoma) and with varying population densities (e.g. large instances might be like Manhattan, smaller instances might be like a small town),...

TammyGentzel

@docpop My go to is: Ad free. Community funded. No algorithms. Open source software. Over 20,000 servers. Sometimes managed by one person, sometimes by many. Each has its own rules. Some have themes like art, politics, literature. Some have a few users, some have hundreds of thousands. Close to 14M users total. All can be connected via the fediverse. Some have created functionality that allows connections to other platforms, like Threads, or that is similar to other platforms, like Youtube.

Just Bob 🇺🇲♒🐧

@docpop

My line: It's what the Internet was BEFORE the corporate takeover.

xek

@docpop I'm pretty sure Meredith is old enough to understand this one: Fedi is the WWW to the old social networks' AOL/Compuserve. (But we're still in 1996, and people haven't really figured out what to do with it yet.)

(Also, hi Meredith, you should join us here!)

Jake von Slatt

@docpop “it’s the only social media site not owned by a corporation” is my short response. If they show interest I go into the distributed architecture and set of services offered.

kcǃ

@docpop I try not to use words like fediverse or activity pub at first—you can see people’s eyes quickly gloss over as those terms are used.

Instead I try to start broadly “a new protocol that lets people communicate with each other independent of application or service… similar to how email works: such that you can have Gmail and still communicate with someone using Outlook.”

Often this brings up loads more questions… because many people haven’t even thought about this as a concept. LOL

Tired Bunny :bunhdcomfysleep:
@docpop The most popular explanation is "It's like email, but for different social networks", but that assumes that person you talk about understands why email works in the first place.

The most simple explanation to start with is "It's a network of compatible but independent social networks" and "It's also not owned by big corporations". If they are interested, they might ask about "how they are compatible", "why that matters", "are they really independent", etc. And if not, they will probably just say "Oh, cool".
@docpop The most popular explanation is "It's like email, but for different social networks", but that assumes that person you talk about understands why email works in the first place.

The most simple explanation to start with is "It's a network of compatible but independent social networks" and "It's also not owned by big corporations". If they are interested, they might ask about "how they are compatible",...
Tuhgy

@docpop@mastodon.social The simplest way I would describe it is that it is similar to how email works. You can make an account at a host and can interact with others that are using different hosts.

I know this doesn't work everywhere or perfectly though, like Mastodon is different from Lemmy, etc.

D:\side\

@docpop I think I'd start with a point that "it's a social media network owned (operated, paid for, hosted, governed and moderated) by the society in it".

This can pivot into a number of questions depending on what the asker is most interested in, which is probably the only way to explain something as complex at Fedi:
- how are popular networks free (ads and associated conflicts of interest)
- why hosting matters (sustainability)
- is moderation ok (Facebook's certainly isn't, here it at least varies, if both ways)
- what can it do that popular networks can't (can't sub to a YouTube channel from Twitter, but can to a PeerTube channel from Mastodon; having rules that are not in line with {their favorite platform}'s ToS)
- why does this even matter (tremendous power over societies enforced by recommendation algos and content policies)

@docpop I think I'd start with a point that "it's a social media network owned (operated, paid for, hosted, governed and moderated) by the society in it".

This can pivot into a number of questions depending on what the asker is most interested in, which is probably the only way to explain something as complex at Fedi:
- how are popular networks free (ads and associated conflicts of interest)
- why hosting matters (sustainability)
- is moderation ok (Facebook's certainly isn't, here it at least varies, if both ways)

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