Gregory's Server@jon I got a new computer recently and I was absolutely shocked that there is no way of getting out of signing into a Microsoft account. The only way to use the computer otherwise is to use a different OS!
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@jon @writeblankspace last time I tried (win11 22h2) before I went back to win10, just removing the ethernet cable and not telling it which wifi to use worked? did they remove that way?  @cygnathreadbare @writeblankspace They make it harder for each release. Last time that did not work. Why should one have to use hacks like that? @jon @cygnathreadbare @writeblankspace I have a suspicion that they might also use A/B testing of random user account policies/blocks too, so one person might find it easy to skip online accounts while another might find it impossible (both on the same version on clean installs) @jon @cygnathreadbare @writeblankspace https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-windows-11-without-microsoft-account @weilawei I concur. Unfortunately I'm only interested in the detachable form factor at a screen size that is comfortably usable as a tablet and run full desktop Lightroom. Which pretty much leaves me with the Surface line.  @baronvonj@mas.to @jon@social.vivaldi.net @cygnathreadbare@masto.ai @writeblankspace@infosec.space ... I'm sorry, if there's a nearby network the computer has found, Windows... requires you to use it right now? What the fuck? @aud @jon @cygnathreadbare @writeblankspace @baronvonj@mas.to @jon@social.vivaldi.net @cygnathreadbare@masto.ai @writeblankspace@infosec.space Is it like: if it finds open wifi or just any wifi? @aud @jon @cygnathreadbare @writeblankspace @baronvonj @jon @cygnathreadbare @writeblankspace I used that the other day and it worked on 11 Pro. Also labored through following a batch of advice about getting rid of telemetry, disabling unwelcome services, etc. Not sure anything done outside Settings would survive the next update. Hardly seemed worth it, actually. @Corb_The_Lesser @jon @cygnathreadbare @writeblankspace  @baronvonj @jon @cygnathreadbare @writeblankspace reconfigure? more like just skip it Last week I started a brand new laptop for work and I used that trick. I do not know the exact W11 versión, but not connecting to the Internet allowed to me to create a local account. Ironically, i only used it to download Ubuntu and make a live usb, as we mainly use GNU/Linux at work.  @FabianRY @cygnathreadbare @jon @writeblankspace In a similar vein I open Edge once; to download #Firefox. I still have to deal with ~10 Edge processes in the background all the time though..... @mycotropic @FabianRY @jon @writeblankspace in my previous win10 setup I had periodic slowdowns in even the simplest games, somehow Edge was starting a few processes and closing them 20 seconds later constantly every few minutes, no idea what for.  @writeblankspace @jon there are ways if you google them. The section titled "How to Bypass Windows 11 Microsoft Account Requirement Using Command Prompt" worked for me on the page https://www.howtogeek.com/836157/how-to-use-windows-11-with-a-local-account/ @YurkshireLad @writeblankspace You should not need to use hacks to avoid logging into Microsoft or accidentally using Microsoft services.   @YurkshireLad @writeblankspace @jon @writeblankspace @jon @writeblankspace @jon there are custom Win11 builds that strip all the garbage out of Win11, but then you have to decide to trust the random fan-made build. @brentendo @jon heck Microsoft is so bad I would sometimes rather trust random fanmade builds on GitHub... but why do that? I'd rather just install Linux LOLL @writeblankspace @jon There totally is, but you have to know the boot flags to make it happen. It's a massive pain in the ass, but buried under all of the new bollocks is the same old local login system. One method is to set it up without a network connection, and open a command prompt (Shift-F10) and type OOBE\BYPASSNRO to make it proceed without a network connection. There are some other methods but this is the easiest one that works on a default install. |
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Indeed. It is crazy.