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 (Snore) Madame CJ Walker, Mary Kay Ash, Beyonce... Just ignore all the data points that don't fit on your bumper sticker  @the_q @YusufToropov @RevLindsay @talia_christine Please take these data points about what happens to societies, if we keep letting rich people keep hoarding ressources and influence politics: @robin @YusufToropov @RevLindsay @talia_christine I'm well aware of how our society works, thanks @the_q @RevLindsay @talia_christine Sorry, I'm sure you do!   Fomenting class warfare is so cool. Stalin is cool, too. Mao is cool. All the genocidal dictators who made the same absurdly broad generalisation and rode it like a canoe down a river of blood were SO DAMN COOL. If something is simple, it must be true. Four legs good, two legs better, too.  @YusufToropov @talia_christine Suuuure, because anything communist is an Evil plot from Satan and everything capitalist must be good and god-inspired because AMERICA 🇺🇲🦅 @yuki2501 @YusufToropov @talia_christine I remember people being shot on the back trying to leave the paradise communist countries were. Such ingrate people. @yuki2501 @YusufToropov @talia_christine Read again. Yusuf didn't use any of the words you use.  @YusufToropov @talia_christine This isn’t a counterargument, my guy. This is puerile nonsense. @YusufToropov That wasn't even about communism. It's just true about the vast majority of rich people. @Andii everyone seems to be taking comfort in the delusion I mentioned communism, as opposed to a blood-drenched playbook for the manipulation of idealistic naivete (of all ages) that goes back to at least the French Revolution. I'm talking about whether language matters.    @talia_christine you appear to have omitted tax avoidance and tax evasion. In my opinion the same thing. @talia_christine Go back to the birth lottery's previous generations and eventually it's merciless exploitation anyway.  @talia_christine This is very good, but the world often feels like the second one should be a Venn diagram with two perfectly overlapping circles. @talia_christine well... I just post about it from a different point of view: https://mastodon.social/@Donna_Paulsen/112140137485808866 :) @talia_christine There are two ways to use money. One is as a tool to live a better life. The other is as a yardstick of status to measure yourself against others. Many people aspire for the former but get caught up chasing the latter. @terryb @talia_christine so yes, there's sheer luck, but the physical process of amassing that wealth comes from robbing the people who actually did the thing. Bill Gates never built jack shit, and at least one of the people who actually did build what the people he hired sold early on died impoverished. @talia_christine Maybe I should summarise that as; statistically some chancers will luck out and end up as squillionairs. So the ones whom we see are the ones who did get lucky. @talia_christine Accurate . I would add tax evasion and organised crime to the last cake @talia_christine The working man is LITERALLY working for his own poverty, its a trap that cannot be gotten out of. Every single route to making money is rigged to fail. Unless you are already wealthy, then cash just falls into your lap. eBay is a perfect example, the only winner on eBay IS eBay, the R&Rs are rigged against the seller. You want to SPEND however, no problems @racingdaily I think we could get out of it but because we are on the wrong side of the dollar we make the most sacrifices to stand up and take the power we deserve. OH and we would need a TON of people to be on board with all that.  @talia_christine  @talia_christine There is some truth in that, but it’s a terrible message. No legitimate route to wealth? No value in hard work, etc?  @mark @talia_christine It is not a terrible message. Forget wealth and live the life you've got. It's all you'll ever have. Don't give it to somebody else (unless they are going to reciprocate the sentiment). @khleedril @talia_christine The flipside of that message is that hard work, gumption and a can-do attitude gets you nowhere, so don’t bother. And if you see somebody with wealth, well they basically stole it or it was given to them. So you can’t do anything. You have no agency. All you can expect from this life is despairing memes. So yeah, not a message for your kids once you get past the surface level interpretation of “billionaires are bad”. Agreed. If you’re in the west, you are privileged, and are richer than most. Equally, if you are in the west, refuse to aspire to make anything of your life because you believe the system is against you, you’ve squandered what billions on this planet could only dream of. @mark @talia_christine Ask the Amazon warehouse employees how much value they've gained thanks to their hard work. @yuki2501 @mark @talia_christine Do you really think that a billionaire works 33386 more hours per day than someone on £30k? @talia_christine Counter point. I came from deep poverty. I never wanted to be rich, but I wanted to be secure. The truth is that hard work and a good attitude has elevated me to a place I didn't not expect was possible as a child. I've broken cycles, and sit firmly in the lower middle class. Am I rich? No, but I know there's a hell of a lot of space between where I was and where I am. Hard work and a good attitude really helped. The kicker is that I'm disabled due to those choices. 🤷  @King_Geedorah @talia_christine Yours is the closest situation to mine I’ve seen in these threads @talia_christine that second pie chart should be 100% birth lottery. Those that win the birth lottery inevitably go on to exploitation. Ok. Maybe it should be 99%. It’s possible that not EVERYBODY who exploits the working class won the birth lottery.  @talia_christine I wouldn’t generalize, but yes, it’s right in 9 cases out of 10  @talia_christine How people actually got rights: |
@talia_christine See you on the barricades, comrade ✊ 🤣