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Yusuf Toropov

@talia_christine

Fomenting class warfare is so cool. Stalin is cool, too. Mao is cool. All the genocidal dictators who made the same absurdly broad generalisation and rode it like a canoe down a river of blood were SO DAMN COOL.

If something is simple, it must be true.

Four legs good, two legs better, too.

22 March at 14:28 | Wall-to-wall | Open on toot.community
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Cyber Yuki

@YusufToropov @talia_christine Suuuure, because anything communist is an Evil plot from Satan and everything capitalist must be good and god-inspired because AMERICA 🇺🇲🦅

22 March at 15:04 | Open on hackers.town
Claudio Brogliato

@yuki2501 @YusufToropov @talia_christine I remember people being shot on the back trying to leave the paradise communist countries were. Such ingrate people.

22 March at 20:20 | Open on mastodon.uno
Cyber Yuki

@caiodark @YusufToropov @talia_christine First of all, the original post said NOTHING about communism. It criticized THE RICH.

Second, it's incredibly ignorant to confuse (and dishonest to conflate) an ECONOMIC SYSTEM with a POLITICAL REGIME.

Sure, Stalin killed tons and tons of people, but Putin's a capitalist and don't tell me the people in Kiev are happy with him. Also, I can mention Pinochet, the United Fruit Company, the US blockade against Cuba, and so on.

ANYTHING that the US has been blaming on communism has turned out to happen in capitalism anyways.

Remind me again how expensive insulin prices are in the US, again?

@caiodark @YusufToropov @talia_christine First of all, the original post said NOTHING about communism. It criticized THE RICH.

Second, it's incredibly ignorant to confuse (and dishonest to conflate) an ECONOMIC SYSTEM with a POLITICAL REGIME.

Sure, Stalin killed tons and tons of people, but Putin's a capitalist and don't tell me the people in Kiev are happy with him. Also, I can mention Pinochet, the United Fruit Company, the US blockade against Cuba, and so on.

22 March at 21:20 | Open on hackers.town
Harm Botjes

@yuki2501 @YusufToropov @talia_christine

Read again. Yusuf didn't use any of the words you use.

22 March at 20:59 | Open on mastodon.nl
David Fetter
Donald Ball

@YusufToropov @talia_christine This isn’t a counterargument, my guy. This is puerile nonsense.

22 March at 16:19 | Open on triangletoot.party
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@YusufToropov @talia_christine
I do understand your concern. Failure to take heed of history is why we are facing so many dangers that should have been preventable. Dictators and demagogues have co-opted public concern and outrage over great disparity of wealth in the past with terrible results. This does not mean that it is unacceptable to challenge the wisdom of a Gilded Age amidst robotic workforces or the conceptual invalidity of the meritocratic ideal.
If the meritocratic ideal was truly the basis upon which social mobility and wealth depended it would require that everyone have access to at least similar levels of security, education, nutrition, etc. This simply is not the case. Again I agree that caution should be taken against oversimplification and incitement of anger, but we still need to challenge the wisdom of extreme disparities of wealth which can cause the fear and frustration.

fortune.com/2024/03/18/gilded-

#TaxTheRich #GildedAge #Inequality #Plutocracy #Oligarchy

@YusufToropov @talia_christine
I do understand your concern. Failure to take heed of history is why we are facing so many dangers that should have been preventable. Dictators and demagogues have co-opted public concern and outrage over great disparity of wealth in the past with terrible results. This does not mean that it is unacceptable to challenge the wisdom of a Gilded Age amidst robotic workforces or the conceptual invalidity of the meritocratic ideal.
If the meritocratic ideal was truly the...

22 March at 17:30 | Open on defcon.social
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Andii אַנדִֽי

@YusufToropov That wasn't even about communism. It's just true about the vast majority of rich people.
What you do with that observation politically is a different conversation. But in my view, allowing slackers with luck on their side to pretend they're something they're not to justify bad behaviour and bad attitudes is not one of the options.

23 March at 8:18 | Open on mas.to
Yusuf Toropov

@Andii everyone seems to be taking comfort in the delusion I mentioned communism, as opposed to a blood-drenched playbook for the manipulation of idealistic naivete (of all ages) that goes back to at least the French Revolution.

I'm talking about whether language matters.

23 March at 8:28 | Open on toot.community
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