@graywolf @yogthos @jimray the bloody authoritarian...

@graywolf @yogthos @jimray the bloody authoritarian regimes of the Soviet union and the likes have very little to do with communism as it was defined by idealists. Anti-communism played a big role in that framing. Guess who invented that 🙂

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Notavi

@iwein @graywolf @yogthos @jimray No, the idealists didn't get the world they imagined - but I'd contend that has a lot to do with the fact their theories didn't account for how those in power could be just as greedy for control as capitalists are greedy for money.

Human nature remains the problem, same as it ever was.

1 April at 0:02 | Open on aus.social

iwein

@StryderNotavi @graywolf @yogthos @jimray I don't disagree with that. Also my guess is that the failure of communism was even more intentional than that. I don't want to peddle conspiracy theories but here's my reasoning anyway.

The ideal of non-violent anarcho-communism is an existential threat to greedy and power hungry oligarchs.

The Machiavellian response that is still playing out is too well orchestrated for me to readily believe that it's just an emergent property of human nature.

1 April at 8:48 | Open on mas.to