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Edit: As mentioned below, it appears to be a bug, not intentional!

Threads hiding @pixelfed mentions, not a good look Meta 🙄

Thread showing meta hid a comment that mentioned Pixelfed
73 comments
dansup

@pixelfed Meta is free to do whatever they want on their platforms, and I hope this is a bug.

I hope the fediverse remembers this though! (They have done this on FB and IG to us before)

The Nexus of Privacy

Yeah, I was gonna say ... they did this last summer too. Hey wait a second, I'm noticing a pattern here. And just in time for #FediForum too, stay classy #Threads!

@dansup @pixelfed

Jaime Herazo

@dansup
We're WAAAAAY past giving them the "must be a bug" benefit of the doubt, this is deliberate
@pixelfed

Bart Louwers

@dansup @pixelfed No they are not. Anti-competitive practices are illegal. I doubt this is intentional though.

Dmitry Borodaenko

@bart @dansup @pixelfed If a company with over $100B in annual revenue only gets slapped with a $5B fine once a decade, is it truly illegal?

As I said elsewhere on this thread, this is not the first time: mastodon.social/@angdraug/1121

JimmyB (he/him)

@bart

Given history and who META is, and their profoundly evil impact on the world, why would we assume this is unintentional? These fuckers employ psychologists to turn our kids into addicts of their product!

If someone has punched me in the face 37 times I’ll assume the 38th isn’t a mistake.

@pixelfed
@dansup

Tormod Halvorsen

@dansup

I might be misremembering, but the previous official statements from Meta on Threads integration was that it would start as a one-way push. Meaning that Mastodon clients could follow a Threads user and see the discussion happening on Threads, but that it would NOT merge back any comments Mastodon users would post.

Did they announce the two-way sync should be operational by today?

dansup

@airwhale Nope, and that isn't the issue. The issue is they hid a comment that simply mentioned "Pixelfed"

Tormod Halvorsen

@dansup

Damn... 🤔 sorry, didn't catch that.

You're right, that’s pretty low, and no, it's a filter someone wrote, tested and deployed, tracked in a Jira ticket. It's not a bug.

FreakinFoss :freebsd: :linux:

@dansup @pixelfed I still never got around to using Threads because I hate how much censorship there already is on Instagram and Facebook... but how much freedom bots, right-wing bigots, and trolls seem to have anyway

Carrie

@freakinbox for real what's up with that... they can say whatever they want. Even threaten people and it won't do anything about my report. Social media is dangerous

AutisticMumTo3 She/her 🌈

@freakinbox @dansup @pixelfed
I'm not going to use Threads unless there is someone on there I need to co.municate with. Currently there is not.

wraptile

@dansup @pixelfed means they're afraid!

Have you noticed that fediverse talk gets absolutely no engagement on Threads despite Threads promising to integrate itself with it in the near future. I refuse to believe an average Joe is not interested in decentralization when average Threads commenter is so bent on politics.

Of course it's impossible to test algo timelines unfortunately so we'll never know.

TheTomas

@dansup @pixelfed Meta was, is, and never will be trustworthy. So what's your problem? I've blocked it from Day 1 and do this with other instances not playing fair or spreading BS aswell.

mikael

@dansup @pixelfed

As I once said: a crap integration is going to be our greatest concern when it comes to Meta’s presence in the fediverse:
merveilles.town/@mikael/111597

They will do just enough to satisfy EU regulators, but definitely not more.

Aulia Masna :verified:

@dansup @pixelfed because that’s me in the screenshot, I want to add that before I replied the second time to cynicalelysian, that “Meta gotta Meta” reply was also hidden. Additionally, there’s another hidden reply which happen to mention Mastodon

Hidden by Threads column showing a reply by @cynicalelysian that says, “Stuff like this is why I plan on keeping my Mastodon account even when Threads fully federates.”
Miyagiyoda

@aulia If Threads fully federates then you won't need a Threads account. ¯\o.O/¯

Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary

@aulia @dansup @pixelfed Seems like a textbook anticompetitive practice, if that sort of thing were actually enforced.

publiclewdness
I didn't need another reason to not join Meta but I will gladly take it anyway.
Debbie Goldsmith 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

@dansup Is Threads showing Fediverse replies at all yet? I didn't think they were. I thought they were only showing likes.

Sami Määttä

@dansup @pixelfed They must be really serious about this defederation thing over at Meta. /Sarcasm end

FinchHaven

@dansup

Wait

Wait

What?

But I thought Peter Cottle was all on about "federation" and fediforum.org/ just this very morning?

Here: threads.net/@pcottle

cc @pixelfed @timothyjchambers

I thought Peter Cottle was all on about "federation" and https://fediforum.org/ just this very morning?
FinchHaven

@dansup

Honestly, the irony (or hypocrisy) is just too thick for words

"A long way toward building goodwill"

And yes, that *is* Jorge, who I admire and Follow, but still

Look at Cottle's reply

cc @pixelfed @timothyjchambers

Honestly, the irony (or hypocrisy) is just too thick for words

"A long way toward building goodwill"
Григорий Клюшников

Threads doesn't show replies, likes, or profiles from ANY other servers. Their roadmap for joining the fediverse, from the very start, was such that they'll start with one-way federation, and then, sometime later, make it two-way.

dansup

@grishka These are replies from Threads itself

Aral Balkan

@dansup @pixelfed Oh but I thought Meta were our friends now. Isn’t that what the Mastodon folks are saying? 🤔

Tom Spettigue

@dansup @pixelfed but an expected one, I don't expect billionaires to easily relinquish control of the for-profit social media monsters they've created.

fedithom

@dansup @pixelfed I am SO running out of surprised-faces in modern enshittified tech world.

@aral

err head :pc2black: 🏴‍☠️ ✂️

@dansup @pixelfed

I've found a lot of flakiness in activity pub comment threads between PeerTube and Mastodon alone, with each federated instance having random seeming replies and sub threads missing. Past behaviour may make malice an easy assumption, but for something like this with new software, bugginess or misguided implementation is much more likely.

🇪🇸🇺🇦 Ignacio 🇺🇦🇪🇸

@errhead @dansup @pixelfed Even if that's the case with Threads, according to Meta's CV it's something hard to believe. Or, in other words, "The boy who cried wolf" story.

Crafty

@dansup @pixelfed The company guilty of selling user data to propaganda machines, doing something that's not a good look? I am shooketh.

Leonie :vf: :kopimi:

@dansup proprietary software will always be proprietary software. Stallman was right, to this day.

PetraPanda

@dansup @pixelfed
Meta doesn't care about look; only power and control. Isn't this abundantly clear?

nrk

@dansup @pixelfed who even use threads anyway. It seems so empty there

cslinuxboy

@dansup @pixelfed Not a good sign for the future of Twitter.

alxdre301 :KaitoIceCream:

@dansup @pixelfed erm... I don't remember which Pixelfed instance but I know one of instances has blocked interaction with Threads

persistentdreamergames

@dansup @pixelfed

I have no idea what pixelfed is. What does this mean?

Julian Fietkau

@PersistentDreamer Pixelfed is an ActivityPub-powered social platform that @dansup is developing. It's focused on photo and image sharing. It's interoperable with Mastodon, so you can follow Pixelfed users from here if you want to. pixelfed.org

The above screenshot documents and incident where a post on Meta's Threads was automatically marked as spam for mentioning Pixelfed. This is likely because Pixelfed is a competitor to Instagram and Meta is petty.

persistentdreamergames

@julian @dansup

And to think if it weren't for Meta being absolute petty dorks about this I would have never heard about it.

Dmitry Borodaenko

@dansup @pixelfed #Facebook made #WhatsApp block links to #Telegram in 2016: androidpolice.com/2016/09/09/w

This was not a bug. It took getting caught and called out by tech press for them to quietly back this out.

івась тарасик

@angdraug blocking telegram can not be a bug, it can only be a feature, whether intentional or not.

Julian (♪🌻♫)

@tivasyk @angdraug I'm not sure it had already been as awful as it is now, back in 2016? At that time Telegram was just a competitor to WhatsApp, not a hub for conspiracy nonsense and extremism.

івась тарасик

@TFFPrisoner i can tolerate hubs for conspiracy nonsense and extremism, but telegram is more than just another twitter + discord pretending to be secure — it belongs to a #russian and is probably transparent to #kgb, there are reports of opposition journalists having been misteriously arrested by russian police after exchanging encrypted messages over telegram.

Dmitry Borodaenko

@tivasyk @TFFPrisoner Telegram is much like TikTok: way too beholden to an authoritarian regime to be trusted. I support the TikTok divestment act, and if Telegram goes down in flames I will shed no tears.

That doesn't stop me from calling out Zuckerberg's anti-competitive tactics. Facebook, due to its massive scale, does more harm globally than Telegram and TikTok combined, even though it's not overtly beholden (other than the Milner investment) to Russia or China. Delenda fucking est.

Cătă
@angdraug @tivasyk @TFFPrisoner Wasn't Durov outside of Russia since 2014? Like, the man literally created VK and gave up on it because it couldn't keep up with their censorship requests.
tamas 🦀

@dansup @pixelfed They never heard of the Streisand effect then 🤷‍♂️

Piotr Kotnis

@dansup @pixelfed this whole Threads ➡️ Mastodon integration seems like a bigger joke every day. I’m not sure what I was thinking - this is still Meta 😞

Kévin ⏚

@dansup @pixelfed that's what you get for threatening their precious Instagram with free market choices 🤷‍♂️

mogoh

@dansup I tested this and I did not got blocked or anything. threads.net/@mogoh_viol/post/C So I assume, this was just an accident.

I know everybody loves to hate meta, I am am not a fan either, but I find it hard to believe that they outright ban the word pixelfed.

Julian (♪🌻♫)

@mogoh @dansup Did you reply to another post using the word? Because that seems to be the issue in the original case, someone's reply being behind the "offensive, misleading or spam" button.

Scott M. Stolz
If such a thing happened, the word might have temporarily gotten caught up in something else that was blocked, especially if they used AI to try to figure out what words are associated with certain types of content.

cc: @dansup @s427 @mogoh
John Gordon

@dansup @pixelfed Pixelfed shows for me for me on Threads (meta) search:

Many results for search on pixelfed.
hybrid havoc

@dansup @pixelfed The only posts I've ever had removed from Facebook are ones mentioning or showing posts on Mastodon.

sarah 🦦

@dansup @pixelfed that's what happens when corpos do social media

Alexander 😷

@dansup @pixelfed Ah yes, reason no. 7562 why Facebook is just like any other Fediverse instance.

#Threads

CynicalElysian

@dansup @pixelfed Hey, I know that guy that posted about Pixelfed!

Adam Dalliance

@dansup @pixelfed

Funny how you never see a "bug" where they censor the word Facebook, say.

Dan W

@dansup @pixelfed
I can understand them defederating from pixelfed instances for commercial or ideological reasons, but actively censoring any mention of a competing service!?

Actually, I can understand Meta doing this, but only in the same way as people who didn’t want to federate with Threads in the first place.

harce

@dansup @pixelfed

A "bug", or as they prefer to call it "a happy little accident". Lets not ruin the positive corpo vibes bro!

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