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Can-crisociality 🦀〰️🥫

Might do a thread and tag people who were cited etc. later, but for now: thanks to everyone who accompanied me on this journey of jackassery

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Can-crisociality 🦀〰️🥫

Too bad it is only customary to include endorsements for books, not articles:

"This has got way out of control, mainly because of your own need to self-promote and dramatize a very small initial disagreement and a couple of silly posts... Your dramatizing of it is understandable: we were all young academics wanting to change the world once, and we need to flag up causes!"

(an excerpt of an email sent to my workplace by the asstodon antagonist, naturally)

Jon

@inquiline great paper.
"Lossy distribution" is a really good way of looking at it.

Can-crisociality 🦀〰️🥫

@jdp23 Thank you! That means a whole damn lot coming from you!! And ofc your published posts and comments here helped me think through this, needless to say

Jon

@inquiline there's a lot to think through, and I certainly enjoy thinking things through with you, so it's my pleasure!

On the hashtag activism aspects, the way I look at it is that you have to vary your tactics based on the functionality and norms of the underlying platform(s). I remember Flowers talking about how you couldn't do BLM or MeToo on Mastodon, and lossy distribution was one of several although he didn't use the term ...

Jon

@inquiline It's not like it's an impossible barrier to overcome, but the lossy distribution is a damping function for getting the word out and the different views of the discussion makes using the platform for organizing much more challenging. I'm sure it wasn't intentionally designed to dampen reach but it certainly has that effect. But, it is what it is. Relays can give a cluster of instances non-lossy distribution, but for the full AcivityPub-based network it's inevitably lossy

Can-crisociality 🦀〰️🥫

@jdp23
>> you have to vary your tactics based on the functionality and norms of the underlying platform(s)

Yeah, that's exactly right. Due to space and how in the weeds this is, I didn't really have the ability to further explore how users can have totally different views on convos here--could be its own paper or a few--but it's so impt. I'm not sure if that's the underlying reason for breakdowns, but it sure doesn't *help*

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