Gregory's ServerIntroducing the Open Science Network 🔬
We're thrilled to be part of this initiative dedicated to building open and federated digital spaces to push the boundaries of open science and scholarly communication.
🔗 Explore more on the website: https://openscience.network
📢 Dive into the details in our announcement blog post: https://bonfirenetworks.org/posts/openscience_network/
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Bonfire
32 comments
Julian Fietkau
@bonfire I'm into it. 👍 Going by the website, it looks like ORCID itself isn't (yet?) officially involved with this project. I'm guessing you're using their API. I've recently been thinking about a potential project to make ORCID records ActivityPub-followable, to keep up to date about colleagues who don't personally use the fediverse yet. Does that sound interesting? Are there ethical concerns? There used to be at least one ORCID-to-RSS service but it's been dead for a while.
Bonfire
@julian Great idea! Our prototype enables users to create a federated ORCID account by linking it to Bonfire, so others can follow and receive their latest publications. To make any/all ORCID records AP-followable, a direct collaboration with ORCID would be ideal. This could ensure a unique canonical federated account per researcher and a way for people to "claim" it when joining the fediverse, including the migration of previous followers.
Björn Brembs
@bonfire @julian @open_science @jorge @UlrikeHahn Hmm, I used to know some people at ORCID. Let me check if they are still there... 
Dr. jonny phd
@julian
Björn Brembs
@bonfire @julian @open_science @jorge @UlrikeHahn Unfortunately, all the people formerly affiliated with ORCID that I knew personally appear to have left.
Nicolas Fressengeas
@brembs
Björn Brembs
@fresseng @bonfire @julian @open_science @jorge @UlrikeHahn I did see that, when I looked, just now. P.S.: This would sort of remind me of FriendFeed, where we could subscribe to the RSS feeds of friends who, in turn, assembled their feeds from their various contributions. Would be wonderful to recover some of that previous functionality we have been missing for so long.
Nicolas Fressengeas
@brembs
Julian Fietkau
@fresseng If ORCID is willing to have this under their aegis, I think I could come up with an implementation to make ORCID records AP-followable, at least as a prototype. My own ActivityPub work is kind of early stage and I don't have much experience scaling things up, but we could test something with an early-adopter community, see if it makes sense, and then maybe rearchitect with @bonfire. 🙂
Björn Brembs
@julian @fresseng @bonfire @open_science @jorge @UlrikeHahn I'd volunteer to be an early adopter! 👋
Nicolas Fressengeas
@julian
Julian Fietkau
@bonfire I'm super in favor of having you there for the project exploration with ORCID, since you've already done the work of converting ORCID records (via their API) to ActivityPub actors, which I'd describe as the only challenging technical part of my proposal. The rest is all about getting the right people together and in agreement that this is a worthwhile project. Since @fresseng suggested moving to email, wanna ping me at julian@fietkau.me? I'll CC you for my opening mail.
Dr. jonny phd
@bonfire
Julian Fietkau
@jonny I think ORCID, assuming they'll agree to do an ActivityPub project in-house, will want to run something that uses only their API and no external data sources. But there is clearly a lot of overlap with what you're doing. Wanna be part of the email thread and/or potentially a future Zoom call? https://fietkau.social/@julian/112004720087298308
Dr. jonny phd
manisha
@bonfire this looks great and very promising! some of us at neuromatch.social #neuromatchstodon are definitely interested in joining as a pilot community. we'll be in touch! 
marcelcosta
GhostOnTheHalfShell
@bonfire @brembs @UlrikeHahn @jorge @open_science Looks like the god children of academia’s exodus from Twitter and enclosure is beginning to bear fruit.
Tim Richardt
@bonfire @brembs @UlrikeHahn @jorge @open_science https://bonfirenetworks.org/blog/ the articles have no dates, making it an incredibly sus "News" page. But seems the dates just got lost https://web.archive.org/web/20231011061824/https://bonfirenetworks.org/blog/
Ashley Reynolds
@bonfire @brembs @UlrikeHahn @jorge is there a way to sign up for email or RSS updates on this project? I am not consistently active on social media
Notizie da Poliverso
@ashinonyx each Fediverse account can be followed via an RSS feed. To follow the Bonfire account from your feed reader, you can use this address
and, since only messages published directly are subscribed to and not those re-shared, I recommend you also follow the one at @bernini
The Viking
@bonfire @brembs @UlrikeHahn @jorge @open_science Seems like you're trying to do similar things than https://scholar.nexus/ ?
Bonfire
@GunnarBlohm interesting project! seems we share a similar sense of urgency and some objectives, one of the main difference afaik is that they're developing a centralized platform while we aim to develop digital spaces that each scientific community / org / university / etc can install, govern and use to connect with the rest of the fediverse ?
Ulrike Hahn
@bonfire @GunnarBlohm @brembs @jorge @open_science and the digital space we envision covers more than just 'publishing'...
bioinformatician_next_door
@bonfire @brembs @UlrikeHahn @jorge @open_science @chartgerink 
qeef
@bonfire @brembs @UlrikeHahn @jorge @open_science Oh, I almost believed you. Then I found out your source code is on GitHub. Sorry, but if you are serious about your mission of openness, you are on Codeberg or Sourcehut.
Bonfire
That’s a fair point. We’re on Github for historical reasons (before being forked to became Bonfire the project was hosted on the open-source Gitlab before migrating away, here was our reasoning at the time: https://web.archive.org/web/20210125011239/https://blog.moodle.net/2019/statement-on-gitlab/. We’re eager to migrate to a federation-enabled forge as soon as one is available (there are several teams working of ActivityPub implementations)
Dan Goodman
@bonfire @brembs @UlrikeHahn @jorge @open_science very interested to see where this goes. Pushes all my (good) buttons. |
@bonfire @brembs @UlrikeHahn @jorge @open_science Bonfire is probably the future of the web tbh :)