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Delta Chat
Delta Chat is an in-between project: often ignored as a messenger by e-mail companies/experts and then ignored by messenger companies/experts because of its use and interoperability with e-mail. As Heinz von Foerster once said: "If you are doing something genuinely new then don't ask the experts. If you do something that has already been done, then, by all means, ask the experts." FWIW many experts have verified Delta Chat's security mechanics https://delta.chat/en/help#security-audits :)
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The problem with asking the experts about something genuinely new is, according to Heinz von Foerster, that they will only explain to you why it can't work or why it is a bad idea. We had no shortage of such experts in the past years :) However, common objections like
DelegateVoid
@delta The fact that it's "just e-mail" is what makes it so wonderful and why it has saved my ass while all other means of IM are actively blocked where I live. So keep going!
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The default setup of #chatmail is for open signups (anyone can get an address) but some operators implement a private signup protocol and that's fine and easy enough to do because https://github.com/deltachat/chatmail/ is a small machine. Chatmail addresses should be abundant and safe to use for anyone , and cheap to operate with basic skills .... A few thousand chatmail routers might already cover adresses for 10 billion people, with less resource/energy usage than a single VC funded LLM startup :)
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#deltachat just got four major usability improvements as the 1.44 releases are rolling out
🔻 Christophe Herbet
with Multi-account desktop sidebar, black screen on the pinephone @mobian or @pmOS stable
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Given the experiences of the last decade it's healthy to distrust #decentralized tech if - it's mainly developed by a centralized power structure #deltachat has 1/100th, if even that, of what other popular messenging projects have in terms of moneys. But our distributed top-notch expertise in UI, crypto, networking tech and our federated collaborative practises across these concerns, try to make up for it ...
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Reclaiming Peer-to-Peer Web technology with #webxdc out of the ashes of "Web3": our 2024 opening post on the topic :) https://delta.chat/en/2024-02-15-webxdc-m3 Psst: we are looking for more folks experienced with Web app development with a knack for P2P technology .... #deltachat
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Lutin Discret
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Today, we are unveiling chatmail services, making onboarding with #deltachat a breeze, with peace of mind. #chatmail marks a major milestone, answering the practical question of "where can i get a deltachat-ready account" for myself and friends? Read more on https://delta.chat/en/2023-12-13-chatmail
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GreenskyVai
@delta I have been using denta chat for 5 or 6 years already and I must say that the app is getting better and better, good job folks
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The 1.42 app releases are rolling into the stores, providing a major security upgrade that was long in the brewing and testing: guaranteed end-to-end encryption, protecting against compromised servers or networks (MITM attacks). The releases also enable multi-device synchronization of pinned/accepted/blocked/muted chat states, a new global gallery for desktop and many bug fixes and little improvements .... #deltachat https://delta.chat/en/2023-11-23-jumbo-42
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If you like delta chat and know somebody experienced with iOS developments please send them our way, retoots welcome. With all other platforms.we have at least two devs engaged but would like to up our iOS game .... Even advising on a day-per-week or loose pro-bono basis could be helpful but someone who gets their hand dirty would be even better. Remote paid job available. For more background see https://delta.chat/en/2022-12-15-uidevjob and adjacent recent blog posts.
Liaizon Wakest
@delta @hpk @briar @ninabreznik @maxigas @okdistribute very happy to meet yall and get to discuss the whole ecosystem with so many of the people who are making it!
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1.40.1 is available now from inside the @fdroidorg app - this will "unbrick" all devices that had 1.40.0 installed and could not start delta chat, phew! 🥳
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Nice surprise! Thanks to @lk108 we now have "DeltaTouch", the Ubuntu-Touch/UBports version of Delta Chat! It's pretty usable already .... read more on https://delta.chat/en/2023-07-02-deltatouch about the journey of bringing #deltachat to a non-Android/iOS mobile platform 🎉 cc @linmob
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End-to-End encryption is one of the good things we have with the current internet and app ecosystems. But it is under constant threat -- be it from EU's #chatcontrol, UK's "online safety bill" or the current renewed "EARN IT" effort in the US: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/04/earn-it-bill-back-again-seeking-scan-our-messages-and-photos ....
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Wouldn't it be nice if you could migrate with Delta Chat from one e-mail provider to another and keep all your chats and communications and encryption working seamlessly? With 1.32 Delta Chat releases we added initial support towards this goal on all platforms 🥳 "Introducing Automatic E-Mail Address Porting (AEAP)". https://delta.chat/en/2022-09-14-aeap
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A little tech preview for Delta Chat iOS to easily setup a second device, under the hood using the fast evolving Rust implementation of @IPFS@twitter.com https://github.com/n0-computer/iroh/ -- not the only use we are envisioning of this interesting P2P effort ;)
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"Decentralized" systems are susceptible to catastrophic failure if every node runs the same software created by a single entity. Open Source doesn't change this. *Social* decentralization and diverse implementations for a protocol provide better resilience and distributed agency. |
This begs the question: when will we see a version of Delta Chat that is fully P2P, essentially a mail-server-in-my-smartphone. Sounds like a stupid idea until it doesn't. If the phone of my correspondent is up, no third-party. If it isn't, I can contact their backup, vps-hosted mail server thanks to... MX priorities. Everything is there already.
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>Any sufficiently advanced P2P messenger will eventually re-invent a custom, partial form of e-mail
That's correct, pure P2P is a pipe dream. The solution, however, is federation, and email is only one protocol among many.
ActivityPub should work just as well, but it is modern, extensible, with a rapidly growing userbase, and may eventually replace email. Consider supporting it. The secure fediverse messenger still doesn't exist, and many have promised to build one, but you can be the first who actually delivers.
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>Any sufficiently advanced P2P messenger will eventually re-invent a custom, partial form of e-mail
That's correct, pure P2P is a pipe dream. The solution, however, is federation, and email is only one protocol among many.
ActivityPub should work just as well, but it is modern, extensible, with a rapidly growing userbase, and may eventually replace email. Consider supporting it. The secure fediverse messenger still doesn't exist, and many have promised to build one, but you can be the first...