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nytpu

Deep from my archives, I have finally recovered the most legendary meme on Fedi (IMO, since most people here nowadays probably haven't seen it)

nytpu

Received some free #Playdate stickers and noticed…

(Transcription in alt text if it's still too hard to read)

nytpu

Me: “Uggh I never have enough music to fill the time I'm working and stuff”

nytpu

Ah, “MAP”. That stands for “Minor Attracted Pedophile”, right?

Wolf480pl

@nytpu I thought it was "Message Access Profile" ?

nytpu

Theory: is #Emacs being “good enough” why no #Lisp has a fantastically integrated development environment (including GUI toolkit) like every extant Smalltalk implementation has? Because as far as I can tell, Lisp machines *did* have a Smalltalk-like environment, but since Emacs existed nobody bothered to try implementing an equivalently featureful environment after Lisp machines stopped being a thing

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arpunk

@nytpu There are a few efforts that trying to get a similar environment within Common Lisp: codeberg.org/mmontone/mold-des and project-mage.org/

Ethan Blanton

@nytpu That may be part of it, but I think another issue here is that Lisp has never been monolithic like Smalltalk, and the Lisp standard (at least CL) has no GUI toolkit primitives.

Arne Babenhauserheide

@nytpu yes — and maybe that’s because Emacs is a fantastically integrated development environment including cross-platform GUI toolkit that even works on the terminal …

Also Dr. Racket.

nytpu

I love the Fortran website made in the style of modern programming language websites: fortran-lang.org/

Especially since like 70% of the selling points are accurate and yet identical to the ones on the rust website

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amirouche 🌱

@nytpu

I understand why my father was doing research with FORTRAN:

> Natively parallel
FORTRAN is a natively parallel programming language with intuitive array-like syntax to communicate data between CPUs. You can run almost the same code on a single CPU, on a shared-memory multicore system, [...]

/me mouth open, eyes blinking

mhd

@nytpu didn’t someone write a comparison of Go and some related even neater newfangled language, which turned out to be… Algol 68?

I predict PL/M to make a comeback.

Petra

@nytpu you're reminding me that I still want to learn fortran

nytpu

I really dislike the trend of modern programming languages to get more and more special-character-heavy and have dozens of unintelligible modifier symbols. Give me Ada with like five punctuation marks, or any Lisp with everything nice and regular. Ada attributes and aspects are basically equivalent to those modifiers except they actually tell you what the fuck they do instead of being randomly selected APL symbols.

arkywarky

@nytpu i love how verbose forth is :3 it feels more human

Sky UwU

@nytpu I think languages should stop taking these things seriously, discrete units/words/whatever should be up to the interpretation of the text editor you use, not the compiler.

nytpu

Remembering the time the GNU list of “free software code forges” refused to list Sourcehut because they say “Linux” instead of “GNU/Linux” in a few spots on the site, even though the “Linux” Sourcehut was referring to was Alpine Linux—i.e. objectively not GNU/Linux.

Tirifto

@nytpu This post is very misleading. GNU does not have any list of ‘free software code forges’. They have a list of ‘GNU Ethical Repository Criteria Evaluations’, where they rate services for the purpose of hosting their own packages. The criteria include software freedom, but they also include other things they care about.

One of those things is that people shouldn’t be ‘saying “Linux” without “GNU” when referring to GNU/Linux’. Presumably they want people to call Linux (the kernel) ‘Linux’, and call complete operating systems other names (be it ‘GNU/Linux’, ‘UNIX-like systems’, or something else).

Moreover, failing to meet that criterion won’t even exclude you from the list; it’ll just prevent you from achieving the best rating. The reason sourcehut was not on the page for a long while is because updating it takes a long time. It is now listed as the second best option (after GNU’s own Savannah), as others have pointed out.

@nytpu This post is very misleading. GNU does not have any list of ‘free software code forges’. They have a list of ‘GNU Ethical Repository Criteria Evaluations’, where they rate services for the purpose of hosting their own packages. The criteria include software freedom, but they also include other things they care about.

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