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elilla&, tactical travesti

"oh nice, #mastoDev has a professional design team, this will allow them to keep closer interaction with the community since programmers can focus on code while the professional design team participates in community discussions and respond to accessibility criticism with valuable feedback from users."

the #mastoDevs:

(from: github.com/mastodon/mastodon-a )

grishka: "Our UIs are designed by a professional design team. We don't accept outside contributions to the UI of the app." (closes issue.)
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gemelen

@elilla
Well, I wasn't surprised to find out

Screenshot of the Github profile of the person closed the pull request by the link.
Text:
Gregory K
grishka
Saint Petersburg, Russia
https://grishka.me
Fisch

@gemelen @elilla wdym? Is he already known for this kind of stuff?

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@gemelen @elilla

Please don't be racist/nationalist.

gemelen

@just_a_frog @elilla
See, that's your assumption that I'm against that person becouse they stated they live in russia, thus I'm nationalistic.

On other hand, I saw a person who doesn't understand how their speech in a foreign to them language is percepted.

Unrelated, russia is a terrorist state and by default people living there support current regime and may be assumed of a specific behaviour.

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@gemelen

"See, that's your assumption that I'm against that person becouse they stated they live in russia"

"Unrelated, russia is a terrorist state and by default people living there support current regime and may be assumed of a specific behaviour."

Completely unrelated, right...

Fisch

@gemelen @just_a_frog @elilla "I'm not racist, I just think that all people from a specific country are terrorists" - you

gemelen

What's happening after that my reply is described by this meme, just nearly literally.

Two panel meme.
Title: discussing russian imperialism
Panel 1: With westerners - adult showing a toy to a toddler
Panel 2: With Eastern Europeans - ancient philosophers forum
Yonle
@elilla what an "professional", responds from the mastodong development team 🙂

So "professional" that it rejects any contributions outside of their "professional" team 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
elilla&, tactical travesti

I never know what kind of crap will show up when I post something that acts as techbro bait, only that I'm guaranteed to have some asshole to block. but why exactly is a magical little surprise box of shit; they never cease to find creative ways to be a bigot. it's impressive. today's hot take its "everyone living in Russia is to be assumed to endorse the regime" and apparently the problem with the dev above is due to his Russianess. I'm sure that Putin himself ordered the Mastodon app buttons to remain unlabelled


@elilla putin, patrolling his territory, mounted on a bear, shirtless, ofc, on his phone assigning how russian people can contribute to shitty software.

that is the life.

elilla&, tactical travesti

followed by ableist slur.

cos that's how you criticise arrogant software devs, you punch down at the disabled

Tammi🐈‍⬛🙂‍↔️ ⛓️‍💥

@elilla professionals are ppl who get paid to do sth vs those who don't. that does not mean that they are good at doing their profession.

i hope more ppl will understand this?

elilla&, tactical travesti

@tamtararam I think it's understood in this context that "professional" means "trained in design", and it's perfectly ok to say your app will follow the vision of a trained team. I'm a big defender of design as a discipline and that the expertise of designers is worthy of respect.

where it goes wrong here is the notion that education in design means you're not going to even *hear* from the users. this is kinda against everything design even *is*. it's a bit like saying "he's a trained doctor so shut up, he doesn't want to hear about your symptoms".

notice that the professional designers here weren't even asked whether they agree with the attitude; the programmer simply weaponised the fact that they *exist* to shut out the user out of hand.

@tamtararam I think it's understood in this context that "professional" means "trained in design", and it's perfectly ok to say your app will follow the vision of a trained team. I'm a big defender of design as a discipline and that the expertise of designers is worthy of respect.

where it goes wrong here is the notion that education in design means you're not going to even *hear* from the users. this is kinda against everything design even *is*. it's a bit like saying "he's a trained doctor so shut...

keschi / cache :blobCat_in_box:

@elilla hm, I can't see any such replies. I must be doing something right with instance moderation

elilla&, tactical travesti

@kescher activepub doesn't fetch all replies that my instance got to your instance, unless you're following the reply author, or you're following me and I boost the replies.

this is one of several not very intuitive features that people often think of as a bug but it's actually fundamental to keep the fedi as nice as it is (stuff don't get pushed everywhere, unless people in your instance have actively decided to subscribe to them; people you follow have boosted *my toot* into your timeline, not its replies.)

keschi / cache :blobCat_in_box:

@elilla Fair, that's something I hadn't thought about. Still, some replies are from instances I've limited

Heals :heart_nb: (comms open)

@elilla that devs attitude certainly explains why the official mastodon app is in the state it is compared to all the other 3rd party clients out there that maybe have listened to user feedback outch.

I get having a good design team - and it's worth a lot, but feedback is also always worth a lot to your design team vision or not, if the users have an actual issue with the design choice it's maybe a smart idea to pass it up so the paid designers can consider it :(

alina 🌸

@elilla@transmom.love absolutely based response tbh

and also btw

> It is a centrally managed open-source project. Its direction and feature set is not decided by the community.

(src: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon-android/issues/22#issuecomment-1321075092)

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