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Dave Winer ☕️

@aral

You could take another approach and consider that activitypub has problems that aren’t being solved, and maybe a fresh start by smart devs, which they are, might get us to a better place sooner.

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Joe

@davew @aral Perhaps; there are certainly issues with ActivityPub. But correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that the BlueSky approach to federation keeps BlueSky as the central authority. While that can simplify some issues, given previous experience with billionaire owners of social media platforms it isn't comforting.

Jiří Eischmann :fedora:

@not2b @davew @aral That's right. It's just decentralized storage. You can store your data on your server, you hold your name through the domain possession, but we (BlueSky) are ultimately in control who you connect with.
It's essentially a centralized platform. If there is something smart about it, then it's how they paint it as decentralized.

maarten brouwers

@davew @aral but does bluesky even federate at this moment? It seems mostly a Twitter clone with currently an open api? But that’s how Twitter started?

Matthew Graybosch
@murb @davew @aral BlueSky federation is vaporware until it isn't. And AT protocol exists only because ActivityPub is NIH (not invented here).
Aral Balkan

@davew Smart devs, a billionaire, venture capital… hmm, where have I heard this song before?

Sorry, Dave, as far as Jack goes, fool me once…

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