@rek my GF is north German. Her mother is a dragon. I'm a loud mouth, a times, but the nasty way they can belittle, is b'yond compare. Generally, men are more agro, but not in my family. My maternal g'mah was similar. I smoke bombed her with 3d gen. Awe & Affection. Ah, well, works as well even if it's somewhat underhanded.