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alice

so under apple's new rules, if you make a free app, distributed on a third party platform, and it gets 1.5 million yearly downloads in the EU, you still have to pay apple €250k/year

between this and apple being able to notarize third party apps, i'm not sure how this doesn't violate the DMA
25 January at 18:47 | Open on wetdry.world
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SomeGadgetGuy

@lexd0g Apple is likely testing RIGHT up to the limit of the legal language in the DMA, and will force a court case, that will drag this out while they actively use it and get developers used to it.
All while the tech press runs with generic headlines like "Apple supports right to repair!" and "Apple allows for more App Store competition!"

25 January at 18:49 | Open on techhub.social
stefan
@lexd0g I mean atleast you get 1 mill. a year for nothing. Which is a lot. It still kinda scummy behaviour to cash in on an third-party party that is literally free. I get that apple may charge something for checking if its actually safe to install hut why isn't a one off fee or something?

Apple gotta be Apple
25 January at 19:11 | Open on akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de
Wam

@lexd0g these fees apply on both the app store and 3rd party stores. whereas previously free apps didn't cost anything to publish.

this just fucks over all EU app developers

what the actual fuck

25 January at 20:17 | Open on snug.moe
Marijke Luttekes

@lexd0g Do we know if they count fresh installs only, or updates to already installed apps as well?

25 January at 20:59 | Open on fosstodon.org
Sindarina, Edge Case Detective

@lexd0g @mahryekuh Only if you decide to work under the new terms. If you don't switch and stick with the existing terms, nothing changes, and you don't pay anything more than you do now.

See ‘New business terms for EU apps' in the FAQ;

developer.apple.com/support/dm

Or select “Today's capabilities and terms” in the fee calculator.
25 January at 21:06 | Open on ngmx.com
alice

@sindarina @mahryekuh that won't allow you to distribute your app through third party sources, apps not allowed on the app store have to accept these terms

25 January at 21:09 | Open on wetdry.world
Sindarina, Edge Case Detective

@lexd0g @mahryekuh If you're only making free apps, you're exempt. If you're a non-profit, you're exempt, etc.

So it only affects you if 1) you want to accept the new terms, because alternative app stores, 2) charge for some of your apps, and then 3) end up with a massively popular free app that you don't want to charge for to cover your costs.

I’m sure there's some folks that would balk at the idea of charging €1/year to deal with that, but overall, from what I have read so far, this seems pretty darn reasonable, and a net positive for the vast majority of developers 🤷🏻‍♀️

@lexd0g @mahryekuh If you're only making free apps, you're exempt. If you're a non-profit, you're exempt, etc.

So it only affects you if 1) you want to accept the new terms, because alternative app stores, 2) charge for some of your apps, and then 3) end up with a massively popular free app that you don't want to charge for to cover your costs.

25 January at 21:16 | Open on ngmx.com
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