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Adam

@rysiek

no but you’re saying that if enough people sign (which I’m happy to, don’t get me wrong, what else can I do?) the parliament will look into it. Then some legislation has to happen. And then the rich will pay taxes that will help fix the climate crisis/debt? Is that what you’re saying?

I’m not discouraging anyone, I truly hope the probability of succeeding is greater than zero my man

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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

@hq1 I am saying that this is as good an attempt as any. Maybe it will work. It only costs a signature.

The point of this initiative is that a new tax is imposed on the super wealthy, and that tax is then earmarked for fighting climate crisis. I like that construction. Obviously it's a long way to an actual legislation, but one has to start somewhere.

@wikiyu

Leszek Karlik

@hq1 @rysiek @wikiyu

A lot of money is spent on convincing people that wealth taxes don't work because the wealthy can escape to another state.

And then when wealth taxes are implemented they prove to work, because moving has a significant cost, and if your wealth is built on local networks of power, which it frequently is, moving also destroys wealth.

Adam

@Leszek_Karlik

Curious to learn about any examples. Can you cite some? Again, not trying to be cynical/sarcastic

@rysiek @wikiyu

Adam

@Leszek_Karlik

> And then when wealth taxes are implemented they prove to work (…)

I meant that specifically, you made it sound like it has happened somewhere in the world? Genuinely no idea. I share the wishful thinking, if that’s what it is.

@rysiek @wikiyu

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

@hq1 90% top tax rate in the USA before 1964 or so. That's one of the things that helped end the Great Depression and create the post-war prosperity.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_

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mhack

@hq1 @Leszek_Karlik @rysiek @wikiyu

New York decided to increase taxes on the most wealthy, the only people leaving New York are the people that can't afford housing prices.

"The report also found that affluent residents who left New York did not appear to have been driven away by recent tax increases."

nytimes.com/2023/12/05/nyregio

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