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 @fullfathomfive I wouldn't just say that about corporations - anything large enough to be organised as a company - LLC, LTD, PLG, no matter how small. The answer should always be "fuck you, pay me". I have known many people who helped these groups, no matter what they were doing, the same pattern played out. Take whatever they could, destroy the people doing it, and repeat. Greed and the chase for numbers (attendees, users, engagement) always destroyed it. None can be trusted. 3 comments
@davoloid @fullfathomfive The problem with those organisations is the leaders turned around and wiped out all evidence they could of the people who built things, and pretended it was all their own work. @davoloid @fullfathomfive The whole point of a social contract is so there doesn't need to be a written one for everything, but if that's the world we live in, so untrusting and willing to abuse and take advantage of others' hard work and enthusiasm -- then perhaps it's better for everyone if we do have to have long written contracts for everything. |
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@philpem @fullfathomfive
Sadly in this system any success is eventually going to be monetised. What might have been fairer is to recognise and reward those individuals contributions in some meaningful way.
But: reading all these points I'm thinking back to when you made those contributions. I have done the same over the years in different places. At the time, you had the same intentions as Duo to be part of a community that improved access to language learning. You gained personally from that contribution, as did the community. That hasn't been taken away, has it?
In that sense unless there was an explicit agreement and you made those contributions in the expectation that nobody would ever monetise it, it's not "free labour that was exploited", is it? It still feels shitty, and we definitely need to call that out.
@philpem @fullfathomfive
Sadly in this system any success is eventually going to be monetised. What might have been fairer is to recognise and reward those individuals contributions in some meaningful way.
But: reading all these points I'm thinking back to when you made those contributions. I have done the same over the years in different places. At the time, you had the same intentions as Duo to be part of a community that improved access to language learning. You gained personally from that contribution,...