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@agturcz I tried speaking English in Denmark, the one guy whom I understood and who understood me turned out to be a Norwegian.
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3 Jan 2024 at 12:12 | Open on venera.social
@TheSecondVariation @agturcz I think it's still France. Everything else is just sparkling Latin. @agturcz @petealexharris Do "wee bastards" and "Oi! mate" count? :) (finally, I must read this Oor Wullie comic book) @agturcz, kinda funny but it neglects the existence of "minority" languages. @mgorny Yeah, e.g. Ireland and Wales should probably at least be partially colored differently (in red?), but the complexity would probably hurt the humour (unless you pushed it to the limit with literally all languages marked, when it becomes even funnier, but only for people sufficiently nerdy about language :blobfox3cevil: ). @agturcz @shebang That seems genuinely interesting. My personal experience in Germany is (no reaction). And let's say that "my German is very basic" is an overstatement. However, when I am travelling through Germany it is enough to tackle basic business of paying for fuel, get the food and use basic pleasantry words. Only once, when we tried to have some more advanced conversation, the person has suggested switching to another language, which was, surprisingly, Russian. @agturcz France isn't that simple. It's ranged from "how cute" to "no croissant for you, now get out of my bakery you cretin". @agturcz That taxi driver in Oslo whom I tried to address in my best Norwegian (actually more like Danish) and who answered in perfect Oxford. @agturcz oh, according to what my parents told me about french people, they would be in the dark blue category 🤔 (and also refuse to speak english)… :D @agturcz @NickyBouwers typical those English... @agturcz I took 6 years of Francaise, then lived in Montreal for a while. They still don't like it when i speak French! @agturcz@circumstances.run what color is "tries to teach you swear words" and why isn't turkey marked as such? @agturcz the red one question is especially relevant for the native speakers. 🤣 @agturcz As Lithuanian, I can confirm this. Like, good for you trying to learn our language. But why ye have to go through that suffer? @minachan95 Well, I am tempted to learn Lithuanian, because of Tautemeitas band. I have no idea what they are singing about (unless I find the lyrics for a song and google translate it), but I have a crush on them :D @agturcz Oh I see... But I've noticed that a lot of our folklore tales or songs are untranslated, which is kinda shame. So, by far, if you want a translation of a niche thing, you have to wait for your friend making a translation out of it. @agturcz @agturcz It's not really true in Germany, at least not now. Case in point: I don't speak German very well yet, but most people who I encounter in everyday life don't mind, and let me practice. as a Dane I'm probably more on the red side of things. It is notoriously difficult and only like 5-6 million people speak it. That being said, someone trying very quickly pushes me into the dark blue territory, and I WILL assist further learning and understanding. It's good fun @agturcz Can verify for every location I have knowledge of. Japan is also BFFs mode, though most of them do love the excuse to practice their English. @agturcz This may apply to the people living in/around the capitals. Outside is a differnt story. Above Leeds Northern-England and Scotland are completely different. Also in Wales and outside Dublin. Paris is far different from the rest of France. Western Switserland behaves like France en North/Eastern as Austriams and Bavarians. @ximaar I was living for 3.5years in Yorkshire (Leeds-Bradford area, particularly). There were two kinds of reactions, if any: I have a creative writing group I meet with every month that's 90% ex-pats and most of them didn't even realise I was Dutch (i.e. a local) until I'd been going there for two years. Mostly because, for their benefit, I didn't switch from English even just to give my order to the (equally Dutch) waitstaff of the place where we meet. So yeah, I'd say that's 100% accurate for the Netherlands. Jestem Anglikiem, uczę się polskiego i nie jestem zbyt dobry, ale to niesamowity język! Ignoruj tych, którzy są chorzy i uprzedzeni do Anglików, jak dosłownie wszędzie, jest mieszanka dobrych i złych ludzi 🥰 Och, miło! Yorkshire to bardzo piękne miejsce z wieloma uroczymi ludźmi! Mam nadzieję, że pewnego dnia wrócisz 😊 @BackFromTheDud Yes, I do. And it's good to see more and more Irish people are speaking it. @agturcz I should point out that the English language is just a mugger that steals other languages words. @BackFromTheDud Oh, English is a good boy there. May I introduce you to Dutch? Apart from their own vocabulary, they have words from Latin, English, German and French. And probably some others as well. And if the word is noun (I have no idea about others, as my Dutch is very basic), you are making plural form according to the language the word has been taken. Yay! \o/ @agturcz When I'm in Italy and Germany, and even France, I see if I can get by ordering in restaurants on very limited language. And it generally works, with the waitstaff understanding not to ask me anything complicated. I speak a fair amount of Swedish. But sadly that means that in Denmark I have to use English, because the pronunciation in Danish is so different (and hard). @agturcz If you are in the US and do not speak perfect English without an accent, you might just get told to go back to where you came from. |