@mcc This might not be so easy. Systemd assumes that...

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Joe

@mcc This might not be so easy. Systemd assumes that it has a lot of functionality available from the kernel (related to the various kinds of containers, process groups and namespaces) that aren't present in the various BSDs, so when Gnome became increasingly dependent on systemd this presented portability problems. Your proposed project (I know, not intended seriously) probably couldn't drop that much from Linux.

Like 26 Dec 2023 at 20:01 | Wall-to-wall | Open on sfba.social

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mcc

@not2b I simply want my computer to have less computer in it

26 Dec 2023 at 20:06 | Open on mastodon.social

Likely Suspects

@mcc As long as it can pick the squares containing a bus you'll be good.

27 Dec 2023 at 0:44 | Open on mastodon.social

Ian Douglas Scott

@not2b @mcc There are some Linux-specific system calls that systemd is unlikely to have much use for. And you wouldn't need all of the driver and architecture code in the kernel depending on what exactly your goal is. And that's a big part of the kernel. Etc.

But yeah. I think the systemd project generally has the philosophy of taking advantage of what Linux offers and not caring about POSIX/BSD. Lennart Poettering at least has explicitly argued developers should ignore BSD/POSIX.

26 Dec 2023 at 20:10 | Open on fosstodon.org

Roger Sen

@ids1024 @not2b @mcc something that bsders are completely ok with it.

26 Dec 2023 at 20:52 | Open on mastodon.social

Peter H. Fröhlich

@ids1024 @not2b @mcc Who now?

26 Dec 2023 at 21:55 | Open on social.sdf.org

Ben Rosengart

@not2b @mcc It sounds like you’re saying systemd has usurped more from userland than from the kernel, which tracks with my intuition as well.

26 Dec 2023 at 20:34 | Open on tilde.zone