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Vorsos

@Raccoon Why is Threads exempt from your long list of instances suspended for breaking techhub rules 2, 3, and 5?
The only difference between Threads and, say, skinheads dot social is plausible deniability.

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Raccoon at TechHub :mastodon:

@Vorsos
I'm aware they have moderation issues, I'm not aware of the extent of them or how badly it will affect us here. Why, is their Nazi problem worse then I realize?

Pretty much all the servers we are blocking are either sanctioning content we don't allow here (eg Cheese Pizza) or people who will harass our users (racists), so if that's the kind of traffic they bring, yeah, they will get banned like any other big Nazi server. I think the only nuance of the policy here is that we're giving them a chance to fuck it up themselves.

That is a good point though, maybe I should go look further into just how bad things are there: if they're just going to flood our feed with bullshit, you're right, there's no reason trying...

I think this comes down to what makes this place so much better than a for-profit network: we are actually users, so we have an actual incentive to make it a good place to be.

@Vorsos
I'm aware they have moderation issues, I'm not aware of the extent of them or how badly it will affect us here. Why, is their Nazi problem worse then I realize?

Pretty much all the servers we are blocking are either sanctioning content we don't allow here (eg Cheese Pizza) or people who will harass our users (racists), so if that's the kind of traffic they bring, yeah, they will get banned like any other big Nazi server. I think the only nuance of the policy here is that we're giving them...

Vorsos

@Raccoon A good litmus test for this is if you would suspend a small instance where right-wing hate groups PragerU, Libs of TikTok, and Moms4Liberty are welcome.

WelshPixie failed that test when she effectively said (paraphrasing), “We protect dot art users from harmful servers, except the large ones because reaching customers is more important.”

Raccoon at TechHub :mastodon: replied to Vorsos

@Vorsos
To play devil's advocate for her, there is a difference between a little server that was literally made so that Nazis would have a place to post, and a server that is so big that posts start slipping through the cracks, simply because of volume. I know one of my issues I had when I had an account there was that she had blocked Kolektiva because I guess there was "too much harassment" coming out of it, despite it being a large server.

Let's not forget that Mastodon.social, where the vast majority of new users come in through, is the literal elephant in the room when it comes to this concept. Moderation is weak there because they pretty much have to take all good faith users, and their moderation team can't keep up with the volume of posts. About half of the reports we get here are on things from that server, but we're willing to deal with that because the majority are good actors.

@Vorsos
To play devil's advocate for her, there is a difference between a little server that was literally made so that Nazis would have a place to post, and a server that is so big that posts start slipping through the cracks, simply because of volume. I know one of my issues I had when I had an account there was that she had blocked Kolektiva because I guess there was "too much harassment" coming out of it, despite it being a large server.

Robert Link replied to Raccoon at TechHub :mastodon:

@Raccoon @Vorsos Let threads in and watch that majority of good actors evaporate.

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