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ploum

How Meta could kill the Fediverse, a look at historical precedents.

ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-ki

At the end of this post, you will find many translations: French, Spanish, German, Italian, Turkish, Russian

15 comments
The Nexus of Privacy

@ploum timely! it's a great article, we were just talking about it in a chat room.

thermo

@ploum Yes great article about this topic. I just read another one that is interesting (but much longer ^^')
sociale.network/@oblomov/11157

Darq
@ploum just block the Zuckerberg empire BLOCK
Yamakyu

@ploum Merci, c'était très intéressant et instructif. J'étais plutôt relativement positivement enthousiaste à l'idée de fédérer Threads, mais l'efficacité des stratégies décrites dans ton post mettent beaucoup d'eau dans mon vin. J'ai vu des tas de gens être fondamentalement contre l'intégration de Threads au fediverse, mais je pense que le risque de dégradation du protocole est le premier argument contre avec lequel je suis d'accord. Et ça mérite bien une sonnette d'alarme, donc merci pour ce post !

Elizabeth 🦚

@ploum ugh the last thing I want is Mike Zuckerberg's slimy fingerprints all over the fedi 🤧😮‍💨

matt.rocks :pdx_badge:

. @ploum I hadn't thought or cared too much about the metafedi thing but your post woke me up. I had avidly used XMPP (then Jabber) a couple of decades ago and forgot what Google did to it. It was particularly dastardly considering that they've never had a coherent messaging strategy. They just felt it necessary to cripple a FOSS competitor.

If Threads withers after federating, it's not a huge loss for Meta, but could be catastrophic for Mastodon.

Miro Collas

@ploum Recommended read - thanks for sharing

Naturfotograf Michael Estwik

@ploum great article, thanks.
I have been suspicious about this whole thing. On one hand, people on Threads can follow me and see my pictures and that in itself is great. But it's Meta who is running in. They will suck data out of the Fediverse and probably add new "cool" functionalities that Fediverse don't have and then we have the XMPP situation all over again.

Trek

@estwikphoto @ploum if that were to happen I would argue that we are further along than XMPP was, Lemmy and Mastodon have developed their own cultures and feel like spaces that are distinct but interopable. Meta will suck data out of the fediverse regardless of what any of us do, since our user data is still accessible other ways besides Federation in servers. Who's to say our data here isn't already being collected and fed into ad profiles right now?

Trek

@estwikphoto @ploum I think its great because threads users are one step closer to being free than say, Twitter or FB users. They could interact directly with these fediverse accounts we've been making and saying people should do for years now without the excuse of Mastodon being confusing or lemmy being scary. Then when they see how not confusing it is (it's literally just like email), they'll be more interested in moving sites when Threads inevitably fucks up

eobet

@ploum might be futile, but just in case: A ping to @Gargron

Detroit Yeet 🏳️‍⚧️ⒶⓋ

@ploum I was wondering why hardly anyone was talking about XMPP when I discovered it the other week. Now I know. Google, man.

Eibriel

@ploum I remember when XMPP was slowly and painfully killed by Google, yep
I remember the feeling of frustration and uncertainty.

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