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@davidrevoy Definitely not an easy discussion. Meta as a company deserves all the criticism, and I do not trust them at all. But … we always advocate for free and open services and protocols. Now that we get them, we say "no, not like that!" This is what we wanted, this is how we get users to interact with the fediverse, how we show them how easy it is to use privacy respecting services, this is how we get them to switch. Instead we build walls, exclude them, make it difficult and unappealing. 11 comments
 @mrFred489 @davidrevoy @jug but do we want that? Perpetual growth is not always a good idea. @davidrevoy @jug @f4grx if we agree that Facebook is horrible, and that data harvesting can be used for bad things, it should be positive that we are getting a mechanism that over time could move people away from Facebook. Maybe it is not fantastic for existing small fediverse communities, but I also don’t think that it is completely negative. For the global society though, I think that it can be very positive in the long run. @mrFred489 @davidrevoy @jug people can already move away from facebook. But they dont wznt to. Something like threads means that they will just be able to invade our spaces without leaving facebook. @mrFred489 @davidrevoy @jug remember that the number of facebook users is much larger than the entire fediverse. We will be drowned. @mrFred489 @davidrevoy @jug people that stay of facebook are lazy. I dont want to go to matrix analogies, but ... @davidrevoy @jug @f4grx I don’t think that people specifically don’t want to leave Facebook, they just don’t care enough about privacy to give up on all the stuff they follow on there. So this actually gives them an opportunity to leave without compromising on their other interests. @jug this is absolutely not what we wanted. I do want people on the fediverse, I absolutely do not want them in Meta's grip. Meta is a horrible corporation, with horrible values, driven by a horrible man-child (yes, my English vocabulary is limited, 3x horrible in the same sentence because I have nothing else 🙂 ) . Trust is something that one have to earn, and they have a horrible (4x) track record. They don't get the benefit of doubt anymore, that's long gone. @jug @davidrevoy no, we want to exclude billionaires, and I am not sorry about that. I want a fediverse full of friends, not companies, and specifically not facebook.  @jug @davidrevoy you think Fedi users care about free and open protocols? A majority of Maston users doesn't care. |
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@davidrevoy @jug I completely agree. If we want the fediverse to be a real competition to the established social media, this is a good thing. Now it is actually viable for people to follow politics/celebrity gossip/friends/etc on threads, so they can remove or stop using threads.
A very good user friendly app might be a good hook to convince people to use the fediverse, as many people won’t switch exclusively for the privacy benefits.