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haikushane :d20:

@TechConnectify I think that doesn't happen because no one else sees the trolls, since we're not following them... That's the system working.

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Technology Connections

@shane please tell me you understand that the system "working" sucks ass for me.

Jimmy replied to Technology

@TechConnectify @shane Responding so I can try to understand better...

I think you're pointing out there's a scale issue with public replies that most people with a few hundred followers won't experience.

And the existing mechanisms aren't automatically excluding rude or pointlessly argumentative replies and pile-ons.

Because of federation/mastodon not enough people see the replies to help moderate interactions to improve social behaviour.

Am I close to following things ok?

Technology Connections replied to Jimmy

@JimmyKip @shane You're following them pretty much exactly.

There is too much in my notifications for me to manage, a lot of it I would hope would be hidden behind a content filter because it stings to see (and that's going to have to be automatically because it's not like jerks recognize they're being jerks, and if they do they probably want to be) and nobody else sees that stuff so it's left with zero consequences.

Jimmy replied to Technology

@TechConnectify @shane You mean you're saying you can't come up with a regex filter that captures jerks replies, but not thoughtful interactions!? ;)

I think I agree with what you're saying in that case. What you're describing is not a problem for me as I mostly post to an echo chamber on my instance, and a good engagement is a handful of boosts / replies :)

Until you posted about these issues, I dont think I knew I wasn't seeing replies to your posts. Might chat to my admin.

Technology Connections replied to Jimmy

@JimmyKip @shane to clarify, I'm not necessarily saying that those posts don't show up. My understanding is that this is improving.

But the replies are just a big giant bucket, and unless you want to look through the whole thing and scroll down to the very bottom, you're probably not seeing the stuff that's irritating me. Because all of that stuff ends up in my notifications unless I turn them off which defeats the whole point of this place

Jimmy replied to Technology

@TechConnectify @shane Right, I understand that part.

For a high engagement poster, you've probably got the added problem that once a discussion is started people will reply with comments to your first post that others have already made, and you've already addressed further in the thread of replies that they haven't seen / read yet.

And whether intended or not by the responders I can easily see how the end result is an unpleasant flood of replies either way.

Jimmy replied to Technology

@TechConnectify Have been considering what limited options exist to help with the problem, and you're right they're not great.

I suppose there might be a way to post generally and have replies to those muted/filtered out entirely.

Then when posting for discussion to do so under a hashtag you follow with notifications on.

But that's ugly & kludgy and while it might work, if its the only slightly useful option I can think of then that is kinda the whole point of the problem.

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