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Erik Uden ⁂πŸ₯₯πŸŒ΄πŸ‘

@mzedp Solar and Wind also doesn't require resources only acquired through neo-colonialism (Mali, Tuareg, Uranium)

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Daniel Brotherston

@ErikUden @mzedp

You sure about that buddy? Most of the crucial rare earth elements required for building solar and wind projects do not come from the west.

On the contrary, Canada and Australia are two of the major producers of Uranium.

The choice to demonize and kill nuclear power is one of the greatest drivers of climate change. But even leaving that alone, Germany's choice to shut down their nuclear reactors alone has caused significant increases in air pollution and radiation released from burning coal for power.

@ErikUden @mzedp

You sure about that buddy? Most of the crucial rare earth elements required for building solar and wind projects do not come from the west.

On the contrary, Canada and Australia are two of the major producers of Uranium.

The choice to demonize and kill nuclear power is one of the greatest drivers of climate change. But even leaving that alone, Germany's choice to shut down their nuclear reactors alone has caused significant increases in air pollution and radiation released from burning...

Erik Uden ⁂πŸ₯₯πŸŒ΄πŸ‘

@danbrotherston I do not favor coal, as a matter of fact I was part of the LΓΌtzerath protests.

Most of France's nuclear power plants are fueled through Mali's Uranium. The rest was imported from Russia. You usually make yourself dependent on other states and imports.

When it comes to Lithium or Silicon, among other rare metals necessary for building solar and wind, they, too, are "imported" and often have horrific working conditions down the supply chain, you are right.

I am still against nuclear because its cost compared to wind and solar is just way too high.

@danbrotherston I do not favor coal, as a matter of fact I was part of the LΓΌtzerath protests.

Most of France's nuclear power plants are fueled through Mali's Uranium. The rest was imported from Russia. You usually make yourself dependent on other states and imports.

When it comes to Lithium or Silicon, among other rare metals necessary for building solar and wind, they, too, are "imported" and often have horrific working conditions down the supply chain, you are right.

Daniel Brotherston

@ErikUden

Shutting down all it's nuclear plants and replacing them with coal was the direct result of green advocacy in Germany.

If they'd fought coal instead, the world would be a better place.

Even if we leave history aside, I support wind and solar they are what I see as the future, but I would never waste my time opposing nuclear, even new investments in it. I could be wrong, and ultimately investing in nuclear is a pro-climate policy regardless of whether it is the BEST policy or not. The people who burn coal, oil, and natural gas are the real enemies, and every time I see a thread like this, I feel my time and efforts are being wasted.

@ErikUden

Shutting down all it's nuclear plants and replacing them with coal was the direct result of green advocacy in Germany.

If they'd fought coal instead, the world would be a better place.

Even if we leave history aside, I support wind and solar they are what I see as the future, but I would never waste my time opposing nuclear, even new investments in it. I could be wrong, and ultimately investing in nuclear is a pro-climate policy regardless of whether it is the BEST policy or not. The people...

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@danbrotherston @ErikUden @mzedp

How does cool burning causes radiation? Which kind?

But the main point you forgot that the biggest problem of #nuclearpower is the waste problem there is still no good solution in sight and it is incredible expensive.

Erik Uden ⁂πŸ₯₯πŸŒ΄πŸ‘

@radife this! I think we shoild begin talking about nuclear reactors when there is ANYWHERE where one can put the nuclear waste. There is no German nor a European solution yet!

Daniel Brotherston

@radife @ErikUden @mzedp

Interesting that you don't know this. Coal contains radioactive elements that are released into the air as a result of combustion. In fact, more radiation has been released by burning of coal than all the nuclear accidents in history.

Nuclear waste is a unique problem only when you don't compare it with the waste products from coal plants or dealing with the lifecycle of solar or wind generation. All human activities generate waste, and while nuclear waste is uniquely challenging it is also very small in scale and containment, something that is not true for other waste problems.

@radife @ErikUden @mzedp

Interesting that you don't know this. Coal contains radioactive elements that are released into the air as a result of combustion. In fact, more radiation has been released by burning of coal than all the nuclear accidents in history.

Nuclear waste is a unique problem only when you don't compare it with the waste products from coal plants or dealing with the lifecycle of solar or wind generation. All human activities generate waste, and while nuclear waste is uniquely challenging...

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