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Dave Lane ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ

@onepict seems to me, if we want sustainable #Libre software, we need governments to realise that it is digital public infrastructure & fund it they way they do physical public infrastructure (well, like they do in most countries). Government's job (in addition to regulating society & private industry) is to invest in the greater good. @downey @jens @josh

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Michael Downey ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ณ

@lightweight

I agree this would be a great benefit; however, in practice what is happening is governments instead funding those who deploy the ("free as in exploitation") software. Solution is not effective until the resources pass through the entire supply chain.

@onepict @jens @josh

Dave Lane ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ

@downey a strong case could, I think, be made that publicly funding proprietary software (i.e. implicit monopolies) is contrary to the greater good, and public funds should not be allocated to it. At all. We just need leaders who understand the exploitative nature of Big Tech (see davelane.nz/proprietary), are smart enough to realise that TrickleDown Economics isn't a thing, *and* who aren't corrupt af. Sadly, seems unlikely those stars'll align any time soon. @onepict @jens @josh

Jens Finkhรคuser

@lightweight One difficulty with that is that public funding of industry is already common practice, so excluding tech from that is going to need more than a strong case. @downey @onepict @josh

Jens Finkhรคuser

@lightweight @lightweight Sure, but then you're facing an even bigger fight.

I think it's probably best to find a way to make FLOSS fundable, but not its exploitation - that's business as usual.
Which we have with e.g. NLNet, but the scale of what they do doesn't meet the needs.

@downey @onepict @josh @downey @onepict @josh

Dave Lane ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ replied to Jens

@jens ultimately, this comes down to fundamental principles of democracy, which are being flouted in most of the world's so-called democracies. It seems to me that the "greater good" and "core digital infrastructure" are the "right" direction to head, but yes, it won't be easy. I think anything that depends on businesses or philanthropy is doomed before it begins. @downey @onepict @josh

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